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T TorchGuy Member Renton, WA Joined: Apr 24, 2008 Posts: 242	T TorchGuy Posted posted on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:29 PM Those are amazing! Thank you!! Will actually BE at Disneyland, for the first time in decades, next week, so I'll have to look for these. Edit: Having looked at photos and video of these Dream Candles, I 'get it' now. The Feelings Flame has a light inside the flame tip. The wick is a long, thin stem with a weight at the bottom, pivoted on a horizontal axis by two pins, which supply the power to the tip. An electromagnet pulls at the weight at random moments, inducing the oscillation of the flame pendulum. It seems the Dream Candles simply elaborate on this idea, but they do it perfectly. They have a flat flame 'tongue' with a weighted pendulum below, which has a wire inserted horizontally at midpoint. The motion in these is on two axes, it seems. One (X) is the flame itself, pivoting side-to-side as the wire itself rotates, moving the flame tongue side-to-side on its thin, narrow axis. The other (Y) is the wire; I figure the horizontal wire moves up and down, moving the flame back-and-forth on its flat axis like a fan. The light is projected up onto the flat sides from below, through the small hole around the base of the flame tongue, making a bright spot on the tongue. Thus, the X axis wiggles the tongue, and the Y axis moves the bright spot up and down on the tongue. With both happening at random times and with varying strength, it makes for an incredibly realistic candle flame! These are really amazing. For great big roaring fires, nothing beats the silk flame effect, but the home silk flames in black bowls, and in fact almost all you'll find in stores, are pretty poor. You need a nice blower fan, like a squirrel cage, a sheet of very thin white silk with a flamey cut to the top, and more than one color of light. The flame has to be long and wide enough to roll and ripple, and while orange should be the dominant color, you need small bits of white, gold and blue. If anyone here is looking for top-notch silkflames, I can dig up some links. As anyone who's seen one of the common 'black bowl' silkflames can probably attest, they tell the viewer 'this is supposed to be fire', but they don't make you look twice, thinking it IS fire. The best silkflames make you do a double-take! [ Edited by: TorchGuy 2010-10-26 21:51 ]

Those are amazing! Thank you!! Will actually BE at Disneyland, for the first time in decades, next week, so I'll have to look for these.

Edit: Having looked at photos and video of these Dream Candles, I 'get it' now. The Feelings Flame has a light inside the flame tip. The wick is a long, thin stem with a weight at the bottom, pivoted on a horizontal axis by two pins, which supply the power to the tip. An electromagnet pulls at the weight at random moments, inducing the oscillation of the flame pendulum.

It seems the Dream Candles simply elaborate on this idea, but they do it perfectly. They have a flat flame 'tongue' with a weighted pendulum below, which has a wire inserted horizontally at midpoint. The motion in these is on two axes, it seems. One (X) is the flame itself, pivoting side-to-side as the wire itself rotates, moving the flame tongue side-to-side on its thin, narrow axis. The other (Y) is the wire; I figure the horizontal wire moves up and down, moving the flame back-and-forth on its flat axis like a fan. The light is projected up onto the flat sides from below, through the small hole around the base of the flame tongue, making a bright spot on the tongue. Thus, the X axis wiggles the tongue, and the Y axis moves the bright spot up and down on the tongue. With both happening at random times and with varying strength, it makes for an incredibly realistic candle flame! These are really amazing.

For great big roaring fires, nothing beats the silk flame effect, but the home silk flames in black bowls, and in fact almost all you'll find in stores, are pretty poor. You need a nice blower fan, like a squirrel cage, a sheet of very thin white silk with a flamey cut to the top, and more than one color of light. The flame has to be long and wide enough to roll and ripple, and while orange should be the dominant color, you need small bits of white, gold and blue. If anyone here is looking for top-notch silkflames, I can dig up some links. As anyone who's seen one of the common 'black bowl' silkflames can probably attest, they tell the viewer 'this is supposed to be fire', but they don't make you look twice, thinking it IS fire. The best silkflames make you do a double-take!

[ Edited by: TorchGuy 2010-10-26 21:51 ]

Post #561785 by TorchGuy on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:29 PM