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T telescopes Tiki Socialite Palm Springs Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 619	T telescopes Posted posted on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 8:25 AM John-O, Lucas, and Woofmut - All well said. I think you're right Lucas, this thread will be locked very soon. But perhaps it shouldn't. An intelligent discussion regarding the destruction of any part of someone's history or "historical culture" (is Las Vegas old enough to fit that term) is a discussion that could enjoy some great depths. As Woofmut stated, however, when that discussion is permeated with bellicose and prejudicial statements, then the whole discussion is derailed or ignored or.... I suppose there is no greater relevant example of what Tom Slick was alluding to then what our white missionaries did to the Hawaiians or what the Spanish Conquistadors and Jesuits did to the Pueblo Indians or .... the list goes on. Frankly, tearing down a building pales in comparison. (Think about the Trail of Tears). Vitriolic statements about ethnicity and the intentions of various ethnicities will get us no where. More to the point, they are all too often based on anecdotal observations and flawed in their logic. So why do I think this thread could be relevant. Any discussion that really tries to understand the true motives about why great places are torn down is a discussion worth having. Think about the one we just had regarding Tiki Palaces. Cammo did a wonderful job encouraging the topic. Ultimately, I think it comes down to what America values and to me, that seems to be money. I want to make one of my rooms a tiki bar, but I don't because I might sell my house and that would lower my ability to make a profit off of it. ( or so I reason). Honestly, so many people justify their view points by saying, "I am just being honest.) Seriously, statement undermines any logic you might be trying to bring to your argument. Arguments are not demonstrated by showing a correlation, you must demonstrate a causation. And here, Tom Slick, I do not believe your observations merit a definitive proof of causation. And if they don't, then your science is either flawed, or you need to re-examine your motives.

John-O, Lucas, and Woofmut - All well said. I think you're right Lucas, this thread will be locked very soon.

But perhaps it shouldn't. An intelligent discussion regarding the destruction of any part of someone's history or "historical culture" (is Las Vegas old enough to fit that term) is a discussion that could enjoy some great depths. As Woofmut stated, however, when that discussion is permeated with bellicose and prejudicial statements, then the whole discussion is derailed or ignored or....

I suppose there is no greater relevant example of what Tom Slick was alluding to then what our white missionaries did to the Hawaiians or what the Spanish Conquistadors and Jesuits did to the Pueblo Indians or .... the list goes on.

Frankly, tearing down a building pales in comparison. (Think about the Trail of Tears).

Vitriolic statements about ethnicity and the intentions of various ethnicities will get us no where. More to the point, they are all too often based on anecdotal observations and flawed in their logic.

So why do I think this thread could be relevant. Any discussion that really tries to understand the true motives about why great places are torn down is a discussion worth having. Think about the one we just had regarding Tiki Palaces. Cammo did a wonderful job encouraging the topic. Ultimately, I think it comes down to what America values and to me, that seems to be money.

I want to make one of my rooms a tiki bar, but I don't because I might sell my house and that would lower my ability to make a profit off of it. ( or so I reason).

Honestly, so many people justify their view points by saying, "I am just being honest.) Seriously, statement undermines any logic you might be trying to bring to your argument. Arguments are not demonstrated by showing a correlation, you must demonstrate a causation. And here, Tom Slick, I do not believe your observations merit a definitive proof of causation. And if they don't, then your science is either flawed, or you need to re-examine your motives.

Post #580632 by telescopes on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 8:25 AM