The Fezzes or No Fezzes poll - immediate results - General Tiki

LL Limbo Lizard Tiki Socialite Aboard the 'Leaky Tiki', Dallas Joined: Aug 24, 2006 Posts: 788	LL Limbo Lizard Posted posted on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 12:50 PM On 2011-03-31 00:45, Tikiwahine wrote: On 2011-03-29 10:55, BigD wrote: The only fez I'm opposed to is a fez worn by someone that did not earn it - although i own a few that fall into that category, i would never wear a shiner's fez, as I have no right to do so. You mean, like this? I honestly love to see them on those that did not earn them. It would be sad if all those fezzes from owners that have 'passed on' were never worn again! It adds colour and jauntiness to a cocktail party! I have a hard time not smiling at a happily worn fez. Fezzes are great fun - or not - according to taste. But I think I'm more in agreement with BigD. I see a difference, when it comes to a particular fez (Shriner, FOM, et al.) that has been endowed with significance by the requirements of 'earning' it. I might choose to respectfully display one, but would not feel right, publicly wearing it. If I liked the look, I'd buy or make one that captured the style, but wouldn't be a Shriner's fez. Likewise, a collector of military memorabilia might buy a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star at an estate sale, for display,... but (I hope!) would never wear them to a party, even if they looked really cool and fun on his jacket. Maybe he'd buy or make up his own non-significant medals, if he "liked the look". All that said, I'd certainly never "confront" someone at a party for wearing a Shriner fez, or even let it bother me. I'd assume it was in the spirit of "good fun", innocent of any disrespect. My feelings about this are likely influenced by knowing several Shriners... from the Hella Shrine, in fact. (Maybe I'll ask their opinion, FWIW... be funny if I felt qualms over it, but they had no problem, as long as the person wasn't actually "impersonating" a Shriner.) I wonder how many among us would say, "Hey, that authentic, second-hand Shriner fez looks great on you", but would be incensed to find the same party-goer sporting an unearned, second hand F.O.M. fez? A bit apples and oranges, though - context does matter. We mean no disrespect, when we use Polynesian religious imagery in our bars - we're just having fun. But we might decorate our bar differently, if we actually lived among old Polynesians who still had reverent feelings about such images.

On 2011-03-31 00:45, Tikiwahine wrote:

On 2011-03-29 10:55, BigD wrote:
The only fez I'm opposed to is a fez worn by someone that did not earn it - although i own a few that fall into that category, i would never wear a shiner's fez, as I have no right to do so.

You mean, like this?

I honestly love to see them on those that did not earn them. It would be sad if all those fezzes from owners that have 'passed on' were never worn again! It adds colour and jauntiness to a cocktail party! I have a hard time not smiling at a happily worn fez.

Fezzes are great fun - or not - according to taste. But I think I'm more in agreement with BigD. I see a difference, when it comes to a particular fez (Shriner, FOM, et al.) that has been endowed with significance by the requirements of 'earning' it. I might choose to respectfully display one, but would not feel right, publicly wearing it. If I liked the look, I'd buy or make one that captured the style, but wouldn't be a Shriner's fez.

Likewise, a collector of military memorabilia might buy a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star at an estate sale, for display,... but (I hope!) would never wear them to a party, even if they looked really cool and fun on his jacket. Maybe he'd buy or make up his own non-significant medals, if he "liked the look".

All that said, I'd certainly never "confront" someone at a party for wearing a Shriner fez, or even let it bother me. I'd assume it was in the spirit of "good fun", innocent of any disrespect. My feelings about this are likely influenced by knowing several Shriners... from the Hella Shrine, in fact. (Maybe I'll ask their opinion, FWIW... be funny if I felt qualms over it, but they had no problem, as long as the person wasn't actually "impersonating" a Shriner.)

I wonder how many among us would say, "Hey, that authentic, second-hand Shriner fez looks great on you", but would be incensed to find the same party-goer sporting an unearned, second hand F.O.M. fez? A bit apples and oranges, though - context does matter. We mean no disrespect, when we use Polynesian religious imagery in our bars - we're just having fun. But we might decorate our bar differently, if we actually lived among old Polynesians who still had reverent feelings about such images.

Post #582717 by Limbo Lizard on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 12:50 PM