Tiki Culture - Geographical Origins - General Tiki

B bigbrotiki Tiki Socialite Tiki Island, above the Silverlake Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 11621	B bigbrotiki Posted posted on Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:36 PM On 2011-04-23 10:32, arriano wrote: Oxford English Dictionary tiki, n. [This use first became widespread in the U.S. (especially Californian) tourist industry, and is unknown to the languages of the Pacific.] attrib. and Comb. Of, pertaining to, or in the style of the tropical islands of the South Pacific, as tiki bar, tiki punch, etc.; tiki torch n. an outdoor lamp which burns gas or solid fuel and consists of a bowl attached to the end of a pole, which is inserted into the ground. 1939 X. Herbert Capricornia xxvii. 408 The rest were a fish-spear, a kylie, a yam-stick, a dilly-bag, and a tikki fire-lighting set. 1952 Trader Vic's Kitchen Kibitzer 208 Tiki Punch. 8 ounces Triple Sec 8 ounces gin 3 ounces fresh lime juice 2 fifths chilled champagne, [etc.]. 1963 Times 26 Feb. 8/4 Breech-clouted Hawaiians blow conch shells and light gas-flared tiki torches on hotel payrolls. 1975 Times 17 Mar. 1/6 (advt.) By the flickering light of a Tiki lamp, you'll delight in sampling exotic dishes. 1981 B. Granger Schism (1982) xiii. 116 The tiki bar behind the hotel on the beach side was designed like a grass hut. 1985 Smithsonian Jan. 30/3 Just two hours south of Washington, D.C.,¨Eis a whole different world. Commercial fishermen ply their trade in undershirts. Tiki bars broadcast popular music into the subtropical night. 1990 Seattle Times 4 Mar. (¡®Pacific¡¯ section) 20/3 The Polynesian is thatched roofs, tiki torches and Disney kitsch. 1939¡ª1990¡ü ¡ý The dictionary seems to be mixing up "tiki" with "Tiki style". The first is a word that DOES very well exist in the languages of the Pacific, and the latter (Tiki STYLE) while not exactly unknown, was simply not AS present in Polynesia as it was on the American mainland. I should be happy about this entry, because it locks "tiki" firmly onto the mainland, but the reality was just not that simple. The rest of the quotes are an incoherent jumble from inconsequential sources that amount to no real information or explanation, instead just further confusion What was the purpose of posting this?

On 2011-04-23 10:32, arriano wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary

tiki, n.

[This use first became widespread in the U.S. (especially Californian) tourist industry, and is unknown to the languages of the Pacific.] attrib. and Comb. Of, pertaining to, or in the style of the tropical islands of the South Pacific, as tiki bar, tiki punch, etc.; tiki torch n. an outdoor lamp which burns gas or solid fuel and consists of a bowl attached to the end of a pole, which is inserted into the ground.

1939 X. Herbert Capricornia xxvii. 408 The rest were a fish-spear, a kylie, a yam-stick, a dilly-bag, and a tikki fire-lighting set.

1952 Trader Vic's Kitchen Kibitzer 208 Tiki Punch. 8 ounces Triple Sec 8 ounces gin 3 ounces fresh lime juice 2 fifths chilled champagne, [etc.].

1963 Times 26 Feb. 8/4 Breech-clouted Hawaiians blow conch shells and light gas-flared tiki torches on hotel payrolls.

1975 Times 17 Mar. 1/6 (advt.) By the flickering light of a Tiki lamp, you'll delight in sampling exotic dishes.

1981 B. Granger Schism (1982) xiii. 116 The tiki bar behind the hotel on the beach side was designed like a grass hut.

1985 Smithsonian Jan. 30/3 Just two hours south of Washington, D.C.,¨Eis a whole different world. Commercial fishermen ply their trade in undershirts. Tiki bars broadcast popular music into the subtropical night.

1990 Seattle Times 4 Mar. (¡®Pacific¡¯ section) 20/3 The Polynesian is thatched roofs, tiki torches and Disney kitsch.
1939¡ª1990¡ü
¡ý

The dictionary seems to be mixing up "tiki" with "Tiki style". The first is a word that DOES very well exist in the languages of the Pacific, and the latter (Tiki STYLE) while not exactly unknown, was simply not AS present in Polynesia as it was on the American mainland. I should be happy about this entry, because it locks "tiki" firmly onto the mainland, but the reality was just not that simple.

The rest of the quotes are an incoherent jumble from inconsequential sources that amount to no real information or explanation, instead just further confusion

What was the purpose of posting this?

Post #586237 by bigbrotiki on Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:36 PM