Post #600780 by Bruddah Bear on Wed, Aug 3, 2011 3:25 PM

On 2011-08-03 14:28, tsenator wrote:
I don't know. Its not like the Pussers company doesn't allow any bars to make the drink "Painkiller", its that the bar in NY was using the "Painkiller" name in its Tiki Bar's name. CLEARLY riding the coattails of all the investment and expense that the Pusser's company put in over all the years and introducing it to the North American Market (Over $1 million - http://www.pussers.com/joby.htm).

Look I'm a longtime Sailor and I've been to the BVI's and also sailed and been to Annapolis MD in which they have another Pussers (which is one of the few in North America). I also live & sailed the NY, NJ waters and LI Sound for over 20 years and when I think PAINKILLER I think PUSSER's. Plain and Simple. They've put the time, money and effort to promote PUSSER's which for any self respecting sailor is synonymous with PAINKILLERS.

Not that any bar can't make one - But Pusser's made it famous (with the ok of original inventors of the tiny Soggy Dollar bar in the BVI's which is called the "Soggy Dollar" because you have to anchor out and swim to the bar to get a drink :)).

With that said I feel the exact same way with a “Dark n Stormy”. You can make it with a different dark Rum other than a Goslings (like for instance a Myers' and Ginger beer blech) but when any self respecting Sailor thinks "Dark n Stormy" they think Goslings.

Just a little bit of perspective from a "Sailor" where I guess traditions are still cherished -- and I think most "good" bartenders and bars feel the same way. Tradition in making a classic cocktail is paramount. If not then you are just another one of those low class college bars like down Jersey Shore that serve any alchohol (usually the cheapest) and call it a "xxxx" (insert classic cocktail name here).

IMHO - Cap't Jack Sparrow....lol

Nice advert for Pussers there tsenator, do you work for the company, or are you really Charles Tobias?

I didn't really have an opinion on the issue when I first heard about it, legal issues are like that, the law is what it is.

But then after I was prompted to read Charles Tobias' responses to both the original displeasure to the verdict and then to Joby's blog post, and I realized his arrogance and his condescending manner toward those who might have an issue with the way it all went down, I changed my position.

That arrogance and condescension, behaving in a manner akin to a parent saying very loudly that they had spoken the last word on the matter and for all of us little children to go to our rooms, drove me away from the company and into the other camp. And before you start claiming that his responses aren't like that, you're wrong, that's exactly the vibe they give off. Go re-read them.

He had a small public relations problem, so he threw gasoline on it with his original response, now he has a major public relations problem, and so he throws more gasoline. I believe that Charles Tobias is quite annoyed and angered that people aren't just shutting up and dropping the issue, he's spoken the last word after all, why haven't they been won over? It's because he's alienating people, like me, who might not have been against him in the first place. The man is too stupid for words, he deserves his company going down in flames of his own making.

I don't care how much cash he spends flogging his product, I will continue to Pass On Pussers! Not one cent of mine to the arrogant ass.

Bear