International Market Place Will be horribly razed - General Tiki

M msteeln Member Ka'a'awa, HI Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Posts: 296	M msteeln Posted posted on Mon, Mar 5, 2012 4:21 PM On 2012-02-27 12:46, Kaiwaza wrote:I think the kiosk, marketplace has works for decades here, it is the center of Waikiki and one feels like one is in a tropical jungle. It's 'worked' for these recent decades only as a shadow of it's former '50s/'60s glory. Once it started transforming from it's golden era style into the kiosk era, that was the beginning of the end, as locals started staying away from the new age sham and leaving it to the tourists who mostly had no clue of what once was. Even tourists that returned decades later and couldn't wait to see it again came away disappointed and disgusted, having their memories of the glorious acreage spoiled. Those amazing days are gone. Even reinstituting an Ulu Mau Village experience would most likely be a futile attempt, as the vast majority of locals have long stayed away and will continue to no matter what is done. The old Hawaiian style that attracted billions of dreamers to Hawaii starting 100 years ago is no more, no matter how hard it's tried to reenact it. Trust me, I live the dream to this day, and know when it rarely succeeds, or comes close, and when it falls flat. The old Hawaiian minds and hearts are too far removed to bring it back, no matter how much the the silly 'sense of place' buzz word is used to try. Ala Moana Center? While millions of Hawaii's citizens still go there per year, just as many find little to no use for it now, and increasingly havn't for a long time. They usually go out of habit and concentrated ease of shopping, but that's lessening greatly annually. If it wasn't for tourists mindlessly flocking, it would have collapsed financially a long time ago. Charging rediculously higher and higher and higher rents chased out the small time opperators that gave the earlier AMC local flavor and being worthy of shopping there. We're now seeing even SEARS succumbing to the financial pressure and closing, but also due to bad local business decisions as well. The corporation that runs AMC says that space will now be filled by small shops, but who thinks it will be of the kind that will be anything but even more junk that's common now? Corporate mind sets just don't get it, and we've been on the losing end of all that for decades, with no end in sight.

*On 2012-02-27 12:46, Kaiwaza wrote:*I think the kiosk, marketplace has works for decades here, it is the center of Waikiki and one feels like one is in a tropical jungle.
It's 'worked' for these recent decades only as a shadow of it's former '50s/'60s glory. Once it started transforming from it's golden era style into the kiosk era, that was the beginning of the end, as locals started staying away from the new age sham and leaving it to the tourists who mostly had no clue of what once was. Even tourists that returned decades later and couldn't wait to see it again came away disappointed and disgusted, having their memories of the glorious acreage spoiled. Those amazing days are gone. Even reinstituting an Ulu Mau Village experience would most likely be a futile attempt, as the vast majority of locals have long stayed away and will continue to no matter what is done. The old Hawaiian style that attracted billions of dreamers to Hawaii starting 100 years ago is no more, no matter how hard it's tried to reenact it. Trust me, I live the dream to this day, and know when it rarely succeeds, or comes close, and when it falls flat. The old Hawaiian minds and hearts are too far removed to bring it back, no matter how much the the silly 'sense of place' buzz word is used to try.

Ala Moana Center? While millions of Hawaii's citizens still go there per year, just as many find little to no use for it now, and increasingly havn't for a long time. They usually go out of habit and concentrated ease of shopping, but that's lessening greatly annually. If it wasn't for tourists mindlessly flocking, it would have collapsed financially a long time ago. Charging rediculously higher and higher and higher rents chased out the small time opperators that gave the earlier AMC local flavor and being worthy of shopping there. We're now seeing even SEARS succumbing to the financial pressure and closing, but also due to bad local business decisions as well. The corporation that runs AMC says that space will now be filled by small shops, but who thinks it will be of the kind that will be anything but even more junk that's common now? Corporate mind sets just don't get it, and we've been on the losing end of all that for decades, with no end in sight.

Post #627731 by msteeln on Mon, Mar 5, 2012 4:21 PM