Glitter Tiki Art - Other Crafts

HT Hale Tiki Tiki Socialite Pittsburgh Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 1799	HT Hale Tiki Posted posted on Tue, Jul 9, 2013 7:45 AM On 2013-07-09 07:32, Choptop wrote: how to create and influence new Tiki that isn’t generic, watered down, or misguided and here you have it. Putting paint on something is not generic... its not watered down... nor is it misguided... no moreso than say... having a south american bird with a german accent sing about tikis... or drawing a space ship with a tiki in it... or drawing a monkey wearing a fez drinking a cocktail.... or making a tiki mug with chrome glaze on it... or making a tiki out of lucite... but none of the people that did those things got berated for doing it. Well, it would appear that we will have to agree to disagree on the matter, sir. Putting glitter on the work of other artists who have worked hard to create their own, unique styles, as well as items that are soul-less that seek to capitalize on the idea of Tiki without having any basis in the movement...that's the very basis of watered down and misguided. The generic tiki mask because it's a mask made by an importer whose sole purpose is to exploit and make money...watered down. And using the two masks that were designed by an artist whose work is all over TC, that's certainly misguided. The Enchanted Tiki Room is part of Polynesian Pop. An original part of Polynesian Pop, which, in itself, is a co-opted version of a culture. That's what you might be missing. There's the preservation of the original cultures, and the preservation of Polynesian Pop. Polynesian Pop is both real an imagined. Mostly imagined, mind you. It drew from existing cultures to create a culture, a movement, of it's own. Also, bad art is just bad art. Kinny provided a great example of a good use of glitter in art. Warhol used Diamond Dust. Again, whether or not Warhol is good art is up for debate (I say this being a Pittsburgh native and Warhol fan), but his use of "glitter" was inspired, not misguided. But like I said, it would appear we don't see eye to eye on the matter. C'est la vie, I guess. Okole maluna! [ Edited by: Hale Tiki 2013-07-09 07:50 ]

On 2013-07-09 07:32, Choptop wrote:
how to create and influence new Tiki that isn’t generic, watered down, or misguided

and here you have it. Putting paint on something is not generic... its not watered down... nor is it misguided...

no moreso than say... having a south american bird with a german accent sing about tikis... or drawing a space ship with a tiki in it... or drawing a monkey wearing a fez drinking a cocktail.... or making a tiki mug with chrome glaze on it... or making a tiki out of lucite... but none of the people that did those things got berated for doing it.

Well, it would appear that we will have to agree to disagree on the matter, sir. Putting glitter on the work of other artists who have worked hard to create their own, unique styles, as well as items that are soul-less that seek to capitalize on the idea of Tiki without having any basis in the movement...that's the very basis of watered down and misguided. The generic tiki mask because it's a mask made by an importer whose sole purpose is to exploit and make money...watered down. And using the two masks that were designed by an artist whose work is all over TC, that's certainly misguided.

The Enchanted Tiki Room is part of Polynesian Pop. An original part of Polynesian Pop, which, in itself, is a co-opted version of a culture. That's what you might be missing. There's the preservation of the original cultures, and the preservation of Polynesian Pop. Polynesian Pop is both real an imagined. Mostly imagined, mind you. It drew from existing cultures to create a culture, a movement, of it's own.

Also, bad art is just bad art. Kinny provided a great example of a good use of glitter in art. Warhol used Diamond Dust. Again, whether or not Warhol is good art is up for debate (I say this being a Pittsburgh native and Warhol fan), but his use of "glitter" was inspired, not misguided.

But like I said, it would appear we don't see eye to eye on the matter. C'est la vie, I guess. Okole maluna!

[ Edited by: Hale Tiki 2013-07-09 07:50 ]

Post #685205 by Hale Tiki on Tue, Jul 9, 2013 7:45 AM