The Tikipedia - General Tiki

B bigbrotiki Tiki Socialite Tiki Island, above the Silverlake Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 11621	B bigbrotiki Posted posted on Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:35 AM Yes and no…it is basically correct, but since Kevin & Jody drew it up from my original design… ..which I hand-drew and embellished with cut & paste dingbats for my 1992 Book of Tiki proposal, my research has crystallized the time line to be more specific: I have always felt that when looking at 20th Century style periods in fashion and design, the typical decade label ("the 20s","the 50s", etc) does not seem quite accurate. I find styles and fashions to be more alike from 1935 - 1945, or from 1945 - 1955 than from 1940 - 1950. This concept applies well to Polynesian pop and Tiki, as Don's opened in 1934, WWII ended in 1945, and the real first use of the Tiki as a Polynesian restaurant figurehead did not happen before 1955, and reached its peak around 1965. So I would amend my chart to that time-line if I could. I have a higher res version of it if you can doctor it that way. Also, if it goes up on the web I would want my "by Sven A. Kirsten" credit under the title in the graphic. Me posting the chart was just to provide a basic guideline, and to caution you to be more specific, especially in the labeling of what is "Tiki": The sentence "...Tiki culture originated in Polynesian-themed restaurants in the U.S. such as Don the Beachcomber and Trader Vic's…" is not all wrong, but could be misleading. A better way to put it would be " The foundations of Tiki culture were laid in such Polynesian-themed.." or "…the roots of Tiki culture lay in…" to make clear that early Don's and Vic's were not Tiki. Don really never was: He or the franchise never used logo Tikis or even Tiki mugs, they stayed true to their beachcomber style. I am not a stickler for this in the general Tiki world where now EVERYTHING is "Tiki". The spreading of it is partially my fault, but also very much due to the fact that Tiki is such a buzzword: Once used, it sticks, and comes of the tongue very easily. So you won't see me running around at Oasis correcting some Rockabilly chicks, but here, at a site like this, the science should remain correct. [ Edited by: bigbrotiki 2014-01-26 12:48 ]

Yes and no…it is basically correct, but since Kevin & Jody drew it up from my original design…

..which I hand-drew and embellished with cut & paste dingbats for my 1992 Book of Tiki proposal, my research has crystallized the time line to be more specific:

I have always felt that when looking at 20th Century style periods in fashion and design, the typical decade label ("the 20s","the 50s", etc) does not seem quite accurate. I find styles and fashions to be more alike from 1935 - 1945, or from 1945 - 1955 than from 1940 - 1950.

This concept applies well to Polynesian pop and Tiki, as Don's opened in 1934, WWII ended in 1945, and the real first use of the Tiki as a Polynesian restaurant figurehead did not happen before 1955, and reached its peak around 1965.

So I would amend my chart to that time-line if I could. I have a higher res version of it if you can doctor it that way. Also, if it goes up on the web I would want my "by Sven A. Kirsten" credit under the title in the graphic.

Me posting the chart was just to provide a basic guideline, and to caution you to be more specific, especially in the labeling of what is "Tiki":
The sentence "...Tiki culture originated in Polynesian-themed restaurants in the U.S. such as Don the Beachcomber and Trader Vic's…" is not all wrong, but could be misleading. A better way to put it would be " The foundations of Tiki culture were laid in such Polynesian-themed.." or "…the roots of Tiki culture lay in…" to make clear that early Don's and Vic's were not Tiki. Don really never was: He or the franchise never used logo Tikis or even Tiki mugs, they stayed true to their beachcomber style.

I am not a stickler for this in the general Tiki world where now EVERYTHING is "Tiki". The spreading of it is partially my fault, but also very much due to the fact that Tiki is such a buzzword: Once used, it sticks, and comes of the tongue very easily. So you won't see me running around at Oasis correcting some Rockabilly chicks, but here, at a site like this, the science should remain correct.

[ Edited by: bigbrotiki 2014-01-26 12:48 ]

Post #705786 by bigbrotiki on Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:35 AM