Post #726777 by 4WDtiki on Tue, Sep 2, 2014 8:30 PM

Jeff, I hear you. But I agree with Lost Island. They're starter tikis. For some people, that's as far as they get. Others get hooked, and in a few years will be tossing these out and getting 'real' ones. Those people will eventually find their way to the likes of you and me! I have seen this happen. Hell, it's not too far from how and where I started!