Your Christmas Hates, Rants, & Weirdness - Bilge

E EnchantedTikiGoth Member Calgary, Canada Joined: Dec 31, 2003 Posts: 355	E EnchantedTikiGoth Posted posted on Wed, Nov 30, 2016 8:14 AM On 2009-12-18 11:41, The Gnomon wrote: You've heard of the 12 days of Christmas. That is taken directly from pagan tradition. [ Edited by: The Gnomon 2009-12-18 11:43 ] The 12 Days of Christmas are the 12 days between Christmas Day, December 25th, and Epiphany, January 6th. Christmas Day, in the Christian liturgical calendar, is a celebration of the Incarnation, when God incarnated as a human being (it's not, contrary to popular misconception, supposed to be Jesus' birthday). Epiphany celebrates the unveiling of Jesus' identity as God's Incarnation. During the season of Epiphany, events like the arrival of the Magi, the baptism of Jesus, and the wedding at Cana (when Jesus turned water to wine) are commemorated. The first references to Epiphany predate the Christianization of either Germany or the British Isles. I don't dispute that the Yule log has pagan origins, but the pagan influence on the Christian liturgical calendar and Mediaeval Christian practices is usually overstated and unsupported by hard evidence, given how little we actually know about pre-Christian, pre-literate European paganism. Which leads into my two big Christmas annoyances, besides having to buy presents for dozens of new in-laws: the constant stream of common myths and misinformation about Mediaeval Christianity, and the annual round of "Jesus wasn't who you think he was, even if he existed at all!!1!" clickbait articles.

On 2009-12-18 11:41, The Gnomon wrote:
You've heard of the 12 days of Christmas. That is taken directly from pagan tradition.

[ Edited by: The Gnomon 2009-12-18 11:43 ]

The 12 Days of Christmas are the 12 days between Christmas Day, December 25th, and Epiphany, January 6th. Christmas Day, in the Christian liturgical calendar, is a celebration of the Incarnation, when God incarnated as a human being (it's not, contrary to popular misconception, supposed to be Jesus' birthday). Epiphany celebrates the unveiling of Jesus' identity as God's Incarnation. During the season of Epiphany, events like the arrival of the Magi, the baptism of Jesus, and the wedding at Cana (when Jesus turned water to wine) are commemorated. The first references to Epiphany predate the Christianization of either Germany or the British Isles. I don't dispute that the Yule log has pagan origins, but the pagan influence on the Christian liturgical calendar and Mediaeval Christian practices is usually overstated and unsupported by hard evidence, given how little we actually know about pre-Christian, pre-literate European paganism.

Which leads into my two big Christmas annoyances, besides having to buy presents for dozens of new in-laws: the constant stream of common myths and misinformation about Mediaeval Christianity, and the annual round of "Jesus wasn't who you think he was, even if he existed at all!!1!" clickbait articles.

Post #770723 by EnchantedTikiGoth on Wed, Nov 30, 2016 8:14 AM