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Mon, Jan 30, 2006 4:01 AM
I was cruisin through the magazine from the newspaper from the weekend and I stumbled across their FYI section (For Your Information - they outline kinda obscure stuff for the general public to 'ooh' and 'aah' and 'tut-tut' over - like graffiti art). For the Aussies it was the Good Weekend from the Sydney Morning Herald. It was just 3 paragrpahs, Ill pull out the bits that are of interest. Also known as Pop Surrealism, Lowbrow is an artistic movement inspired by the pop culture of the late 1950s and early 1960s: hot rods, horror films, comic books, pulp novels, tiki, religious iconogrpahy, cocktails, TV sitcoms, cartoons, rock-concert posters, tattoos, Nazi regalia, Asian art and animals with big eyes Apparently we dont have any of those things today! Then it goes on to discuss why lowbrow isnt 'valued' in the 'art' world.
Apparently he's not a fan. Neither is Robert Williams, one of the founders of Juxtapoz magazine (and considered a father of lowbrow). They reckon its gone wayward and now desribe it as "unibrow". The article says he has given up all together and quotes him as saying: "There isn't any more outlaw art. All this tiki and big-eye crap is just a bunch of illustrators looking for a new place for their stuff because they lost their jobs to computers" And that is the end of the article. Neither the art-world wankers or the traditional lowbrow artists want us. Bugger em all - lets make some Mai Tais, crank up the exotica and make some mongrel half breed bastard form of art that only a mother like us could love. Stay tiki! |
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Mon, Jan 30, 2006 12:24 PM
I'm ok with this type of art being dismissed by most, cause that means it can be cheaper for me to buy. Most art doesn't catch on until it unaffordable. But the people who love it and buy it, get it and that all that matters. Hey, I thought Robert Williams loved Tiki. That was the last thing, I hear. |
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Mon, Jan 30, 2006 1:54 PM
I read this article and tore it out for future reference... but it made me so angry I decided to throw the article away. I didn't want to keep that negative stuff in my house. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, the art world is no exception. If you don't like a form or style of art - it's OK to say so. But to stoop as low as Robert Williams and say that "all this Tiki crap" - is quite shallow of the man. To add further insult to all Tiki artists by stating, "just a bunch of illustrators looking for a new place for their stuff because they lost their jobs to computers" is completely unnecessary. It makes me wonder what psychological disturbances this man has after all. |
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Mon, Jan 30, 2006 1:57 PM
lets face it our art is never going to be totally accepted by the mainstream, but then again how many of us try to market ourselves as an "artiste" personally I paint what & when I like, if others appreciate what i do thats awsome but I'm not going to lose sleep if i never end up in the pages of Juxtapoz. As for Robert Williams comments that guy is brilliant he has been around since the start, seen lots come & go & is really articulate. I would be interested to hear the context that statement was actually made in. cheers |
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Tue, Jan 31, 2006 5:59 PM
I am also surprised by the comment by Robert Williams, surely this statement was taken out of context, especially since there is a lot of Tiki related artwork that shows up in Juxtapoz magazine, especially works by Shag. In the newest issue of Juxtapoz, Roberts talks about his dislike of the term "lowbrow" because he doesn't like the often negative connotations that the art world attaches to it, that it demeans the artwork itself. I tend to agree with him; I think that lowbrow art is just as valid an art form as conceptual or other types of art. |
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Tue, Jan 31, 2006 7:38 PM
Perhaps he was meaning crap tiki art, not all tiki art? There is some CRAP tiki art out there. The article gave no clue as to the context it was said in. |
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Bobby Peru
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Tue, Jan 31, 2006 11:32 PM
Hi guys I had a quick read of the piece last night, from my understanding Robert's quote was more of a reference to the direction in which lowbrow art is heading, it is becoming more commercial every day it,s no longer "outlaw" art, the way I see it is that there are those who are into the art because "i dont know art but I know what I like" then there are those who are looking for the hidden meaning the conceptual side. each to their own I guess. After reading the piece i stand behind my theory that the statement was taken out of context. cheers [ Edited by: Bobby Peru 2006-01-31 23:33 ] |
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tiki beat by marcus thorn
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Wed, Feb 1, 2006 1:57 PM
people that knock it cant do it. |
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Wed, Feb 1, 2006 6:41 PM
I guess this is taken (and maybe intended) as disparagement, but actually it seems to me like a very suitable comparison. A lot of "highbrow" fine art is the art-world equivalent of a $20,000 designer gown - even more artificial markup due to the marketplace, and probably an even stronger case of being purchased more to impress others than to fulfill any artistic tastes of the buyer. Lowbrow art buyers are often those in the happy position of having the disposable income to spend on the things they're interested in, while having the independence to be able to make these choices without concern for whether those interests are considered marginal. But that sounds like a good thing to me - it oughta be good news that there's a buyer for these kinds of artistic offerings. Actually I think another apt comparison is the $500 tiki mug, a pretty recent phenomenon where things once considered marginal have a new kind of appreciation. Maybe Robert Williams is grousing about a degree of oversupply, when it comes to lowbrow art lately. But even this is puzzling - if you look at the "lowbrow" art world from 10 years ago, there were plenty of hackneyed ideas back then using underground/marginal/outsider themes similar to what shows up today, just with more frequency now. -Randy |
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Thu, Feb 2, 2006 6:57 AM
I think I found the LA Weekly article they lifted this from: http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=179&Itemid=47
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Thu, Feb 2, 2006 4:20 PM
I spoke with Robert on the phone this afternoon, and mentioned the TC posts to him. He asked me to respond that he loves tikis, has an extensive tiki collection himself, and is not dissing the Tiki Community. He just thinks an awful lot of artists are jumping on the bandwagon, and he's not crazy about some of the art. |
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