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Tiki Event-What do you wanna see?
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If you could assemble the ultimate tiki event, both for veterans and those new to tiki, what would you include? -Music acts |
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Sat, Feb 25, 2006 1:35 AM
Only 8 people are browsing at the moment, so I guess it's up to me to respond first, even though I've never been to a "tiki event." Two ideas have been running around my mind lately for social events that would be great for tiki fan get-togethers:
Other ideas I might throw out:
The most practical ideal location, of course, would have to be somewhere in Southern California or maybe Florida. Hawaii is too far, and everywhere else is either too cold, too untiki, or too far for most people. I'd keep the professional acts to a minimum, since it's too easy to fall into nonparticipating show-watching mode instead of socializing and making memories of your own. I'm envisioning an outdoor event where there is lots of room and the kind of activities where both young and old can join in, to make nice memories for the next generation of tiki lovers to cherish later on. Damn, all this sounds pretty fun. Let me know if you plan something like that. Just my vision. [ Edited by: mbonga 2006-02-25 01:47 ] [ Edited by: mbonga 2006-02-25 01:51 ] [ Edited by: mbonga 2006-02-25 02:02 ] [ Edited by: mbonga 2006-02-25 04:29 ] |
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Sat, Feb 25, 2006 4:13 AM
Male strippers! :lol: |
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Sat, Feb 25, 2006 5:52 AM
[ Edited by: Chip and Andy 2009-06-05 17:32 ] |
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Sat, Feb 25, 2006 9:05 AM
Way to bring it, Mbonga. I would like a weekly tiki bar circuit, for example: Wed: Tiki-Ti |
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Sun, Feb 26, 2006 8:40 PM
I like several of the ideas. There were a few suggestions about something like a class. One thought, especialy for those new to tiki, are some classes along the line of lei-making (already mentioned). Here's a few suggestions, please tell my what you think. Home Tiki Bar 101 (From floorplan to palm fronds) Bar tending tips from the pros Drink Garnishments (this is almost a lost art where I'm from) |
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Sun, Feb 26, 2006 11:01 PM
What about contests? Bobbing for Mangos sounds interesting, but what else? |
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Sun, Feb 26, 2006 11:57 PM
Another question to consider. What's one thing that would get you to attend a Tiki Event held in a fairly non-tiki city inland? Say MidWest. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 12:03 AM
Coconut shot put? :) |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 12:19 AM
Another question. What if only part of the Tiki Event happened at the hotel? A chartered bus (or buses) that would take event-goers to tiki-esque attractions around the city. Examples: Would you pay extra $ for any of these options? |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 12:32 AM
Another question. This is serious research, so please bear with me. How important are the Friday (and sometimes Thursday night) activities such as bar tours and informal parties? What's good and bad about these? How important are activities on Sunday? Is the vendor room enough or do you want a half or full day of activities? |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 8:38 AM
[ Edited by: Chip and Andy 2009-06-05 17:31 ] |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 10:05 AM
The Midwest is not non-tiki. Chicago currently has the most tiki in the Midwest. It is the center point of tiki in the Midwest and there is plenty of tiki scattered around the neighboring states and cities. As for an event, Chicago has hosted plenty of tiki events both large and small from Tabu Tiki Nights at Trader Vics to the blowout that was Exotica last year. Tiki lives on through the artists in the Midwest, from commercial carvers to carvers that do work for their own paradises, from tiki painters to mixed media artists. Last year DVA Gallery in Chicago featured more Midwestern tiki artists than artists from the other parts of the country. It gets old hearing people bag on the Midwest, hell, I don't like it all the time either but it's where I live and make the best of it. Tiki doesn't only exist in California and Florida, it's everywhere you want it to be, the main reason for the Polypop Movement. [ Edited by: Lake Surfer 2006-02-27 10:08 ] |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 10:13 AM
Fire Dancers (Tahitian Fire Knife) and Hula Dancers. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 12:42 PM
Topless female hula dancers?!?! Jeff(bigtikidude) |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 2:20 PM
I like the idea of the tiki carving demonstrations and the tiki mixology and garnishment instructions. Maybe do an "Iron Chef" type competition for bartenders and have a mystery ingredient? |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 2:23 PM
What about going for some kind of world record? That might encourage people to come. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 2:29 PM
Palm trees and waterfalls. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 8:47 PM
My apologies Lakesurfer, You bring to light a very fair correction I should make. I guess by most perceptions, I'm talking about the Southwest and not the Midwest. I don't dispute the existence of Tiki in your area at all. I'm talking about the Wyoming, Nebraska, Colorado, New Mexico region. I've never felt that Wyoming, Nebraska or Colorado were Southwest and have always felt they deserved more of a Midwest status. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 9:20 PM
Kind of a question for both event hosts and event attendees. How important is it to have a commemorative tiki mug for an event? Does a good event-themed tiki mug help motivate you to attend? Does it not matter either way? What if the mug is designed by a recognized artist and only available at the event? Personally, I think if someone goes to any trouble at all to make it to a tiki event, then the event mug becomes a treasured keepsake. At least that's my impression. Question for event hosts: Are commemorative mugs really worth all the trouble? I haven't had a tiki mug made and it seems like a considerable amount of time, energy and money to have one created. I'm asking because I'm wondering if a tiki mug is a good source for a secondary revenue to help offset other event expenses. Personally, I think having a mug created for attendees and collectors is an excellent idea. Not to mention the extra "sparkle" to the overall event. The added advertising bonus is also significant. The event may have been over for six months, but if the mug is worthy of the secondary market, then there's your event name getting extra mention. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 9:24 PM
Deleted to keep topic from being derailed. [ Edited by: Chongolio 2006-02-28 00:42 ] |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 9:47 PM
Comment observations: Regarding competitions, it sounds like there's some interest in a physical contest of some sort. Maybe an iron man style contest? -Tiki totem toss-just like the Scottish Caber (which I've actually competed in) Though some of these activities may require some form of waiver for the participants, I think they could be fun. Now finding a site that such activities could occur.......could be a little hard to find. Now about an Iron Mixologist contest, I REALLY like that! Classes: -Some form of tribal face or body painting Adult Specific Activities: Ambience: Please keep the thoughts flowing folks! |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 10:01 PM
As an original midwesterner (Ohio) It seems to me even MORE important to have Tiki events in what are otherwise relatively non-Tiki places. These are where Tiki is needed the most, and where Tikiphiles feel the most isolated. Rather than isolated Tikiphiles always having to travel to CA, or FL, etc, it might be really nice to create reasons for places that are Tiki soaked to come to places that are Tiki desolate. That said, I'm not sure HOW to do it. Having at least one Tiki venue as a focal point, or 'home base' becomes important. And being somewhere with several, or that even USED to have several venues can be good. Places that perhaps do not have full scale Tiki-vibe, but a little Tiki in the midst of say, other googie architectural gems can create a vibe that while not Tiki per se, can help the mood along a bit. (Trust me, I've been personally contemplating such both in terms of the Wildwoods in NJ, and here in Maryland which has Vera's white sands and not much else.) So what do I look for in events? (Oaktiki and I have been to quite a few now, from Exotica in Chicago, to Oasis in Palm Springs, from Hukilau in FL, to Mondo Tiki in Vegas, all this straight on through to our local MD/DC/VA get togethers. Well, I may be a bit of a freak, but the history, architecture, and and actual 'arts' are some of what attract me- Things like Sven's slideshows have been real high points for us. Architectural tours in both Palm Springs and Vegas have been some of best of the best (but a big part of that has been the fact that both featured EXACTLY the right guides!) Events that allow time to explore more- what else is around in the neighborhood and town- drive ins, other architectural goodies, diners, museum exhibits, an evening boat cruise on a Tikified boat (a la Hukilau!) a tie in with a gallery event- best of all a Tiki show! Maybe renting out a local architecturally significant movie theater to run Tiki films in- work with what you've got, and then figure how Tiki can be worked in. Further, if you're in a town that has specific features set aside some time for them- make open time for things like 'beach time' if you're at a beach, try not to run everything opposite everything else all the time, as people will begin to feel sad for all the things they wanted to do that ran opposite all the other things they wanted to do and did. A less cluttered quality over quantity approach can be good. Good mixology- there's nothing worse than being in a good & Tiki place with a bad drink- except maybe being in a good and Tiki place with bad/wrong music music! Demonstrations and hands on fun- carving demos, painting demos, 101 ways to recreate the look of matting on a ceiling, mixology demos, best ways to hang tapa, Uke 101, the list could go on and on. Allowing time and deliberate spaces for meet and greets- we know so many people on TC from their posts alone, while lucky Tikiphiles that are parts of broader communities like in parts of CA know each other and do things together on an ongoing basis, it can be hard for even long timers from somewhere else to fit in- make social space and time to meet one another and talk a part of the event. I've seen REAL deep friendships come out of Tiki events and while no one can schedule that, making it possible and not getting in the way of it is really important. Anything that facilitates connecting the person you've never seen before to 'oh, yeah, that person on TC who posted that amazing thing!' helps- now I'm not saying TACKY bad nametags like you just came out of the board room, but some ability to recognize each other, get a feel for who all is at the event, and maybe a common (physical) message board where people can leave notes for others saying 'hey- I know you're here, I'd love to meet up! How about... if you can'? Dedicated space and time for venders- AND making ways for venders to enjoy the event they're at. There's nothing worse than being at THE Tiki event and not get to enjoy it yourself! Humour, FUN, silliness, and the unexpected! If you don't plan on them being part of the event, it won't work. ART! This community has an incredible wealth of creativity! (In case everyone hasn't already noticed!) Make ways for it it to happen- watching people transform even the most ordinary of hotel rooms into weekend long art installations is part of the wonder that are the folks from TC. Importantly, however, people flying in are in a different situation, making both people feel at home- those who drive in giant Moai heads and those who perhaps pack a lei and their aloha shirt should feel equally a part! Kids- deciding what kind of event you're throwing and how kids are going to be both part of it, and at times perhaps a more adult atmosphere can be really important. OakTiki and I are child-free, but many in this community are not only dealing with childcare issues, but are also let's face it, showing the next generation what Tiki is all about. (No, I'm not saying we indoctrinate children! I am saying, memories of luaus and Tiki restaurants last a lifetime!) Our community both feasts in Tiki palaces, and holds wild drunken Tiki debauchery on into the wee hours of the night, errrrr pre-dawn, errrrrr, well for days on end. So perhaps the Tiki Burlesque needs to be specifically set aside for those over 18- then again, perhaps the 'find 10 neat details about the Mai Kai scavenger hunt needs to be specifically set aside for those UNDER 10! Find the balance- mark what's what clearly on the schedule and if time can be set aside for parents to get to enjoy some of the adult times without having to panic over childcare, so much the better. A final note for now- transport. If the event will be spread over multiple venues in one evening, a bus for shared non inebriated transport can be a lifesaver. Knowing that you'll be able to enjoy an evening's worth of events and the mixology thereof without having to fuss with cabs or who will do the driving can be a REALLY great way to not only make the event run smoothly, but also build friendships and a sense of community among those who are traveling together. Kon Tiki transports from Exotica in Chicago was a good model. Make it easy, make it realaxing, make a schedule people can plan on, and above all else, make it FUN- a memorable EVENT and well, you could probably throw it in Nebraska (with a lot of work and a good crew of co-hosts!) I've got a lot more but it's still perkilating. |
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Mon, Feb 27, 2006 10:20 PM
Also mugs- yeah baby! A big part of my childhood trips to the Kahiki were the mugs that came home! If you drank from a ceramic Coconut, it went home with you. If you drank a headhunter, the headhunter mug went home with you. They accumulated on many an Ohioan's upper kitchen shelves until we had collections of skulls, headhunters etc which were fond rememberances of many an anniversary, a birthday, an engagement, a special event! AND it was a restaurant with a souvenir shop! Everything from Moai head necklaces and leis to nice black Tahitian pearl earrings. Closest surviving example I'd really found was Hale Kahiki outside of Chicago. Point being, our souvenirs, no matter how tacky were reminders of our experiences. My Dad always seemed to have at least one bamboo backscratcher from the Kahiki in the downstairs (guy's) bathroom. And it always made us smile. So, purely from an attendee perspective, absolutely emphatically YES a custom- and unique to the event mug that in some way has the event name and year worked into the design. I've got a growing collection of 'event specific' mugs, 'field collected mugs' from places we've been to, found in the wild, and then the rest of the more general mug collection. Event specific mugs are unique treasures! They are happy little glazed memories standing watch from their shelves over our Lounge of the Seven Pleasures! And best of all, drinking from these sacred vessels, brings home memories of wonderful times and fantastic people! Event specific CDs are great along those lines too! "You're getting more interesting by the drink!" -Pepe le Tiki [ Edited by: Sabina 2006-02-27 22:21 ] |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 12:04 AM
Thanks for sharing such a wealth of insight Sabina! Another topic that nobody has really commented much on. Musical Entertainment Ok, keeping in mind that such an event would occur within the region mentioned, what would you expect for music? Would one major headliner (like Don Tiki) suffice for one evening, would you want a day long music show w/lesser known revolving acts or an afternoon of a smaller number of better known talent? An act like Don Tiki is significantly larger and more expensive, but logistically easier than a large number of smaller, but less expensive groups. Especially for a first time event what would be your expectations? |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 12:26 AM
I know, more questions. Musical Venue Regarding venue (again keeping in mind the region where the event would occur) would you be adverse to the musical act(s) occuring indoors? Personally, I'd prefer an outdoor beach party, but that's pretty unrealistic in these areas. At least within distance of an affordable hotel. A stage within a grand ballroom is more sensible with a controlled enviroment, overhead decor (to get that tiki bar feel) and possible bar service. Cost, since most ballrooms are pre-wired for sound and light, is also less of a factor. The downside of indoors is limited access. If the event is well attended, then it's likely that not everyone will get to see the show. The number of attendees in the music hall would have to be heavily monitored to adhear to fire codes, etc. Have you been to events with similar challenges and how has this been addressed? |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 3:13 PM
Painting demonstrations? That's a cool idea! Faux-painting is popular, and a demo on how to make your ceiling look like Bamboo would be neat. |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 3:31 PM
... now you're barkin' up the right tree, pork chop... ... as far as financially feasible, porn makes billions per year, though it doesn't have to be pornographic (or maybe so)... ... might be something to consider... the alohabros would be there, helping wherever possible, lending expertise in videography, lighting and sound... |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 5:12 PM
I'll just throw out a few more opinions and ideas here. Opinions: More ideas:
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 5:43 PM
oh wow...ingenius to say the least. For me i'd want to see a lot of authentic Tiki attire and masks/totems. Maybe while walking down "Vendor's Alley" you can spot the occasional fire-eater perhaps. A Hawaiin War-chanting circle at dusk-through night-time. Oh, and while the chanting is going on there can be a huge roasting pit where you can cook a big ol' pig. Say bye bye to Porky, kids! I just realized...if we were to have a HUGE tiki convention up here in Boston. OmG! We can hold it in the Hynes Convention Center! (gasp...the same location where Anime Boston is held)! InGenius i say!! |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 6:49 PM
Many great ideas have been listed. I miss here one thing about the music entertainment. My idea about the music for a tiki event can be viewed here: [ Edited by: lemonsqueezer 2006-03-01 07:44 ] |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 7:53 PM
... don't forget the various and sundry tattoo booths that open for business around the same time the bar kicks into high gear... man that'd rock... ... the alohabros would be there, shaders, outliners & all, giving discounts to the wackiest tattoo requests (of course after the all waivers had been signed)... |
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Tue, Feb 28, 2006 8:57 PM
So far, there have been several mentions of tribal body decoration in one form or another. The thought of having a Tattoo artist(s) as a vendor, had crossed my mind. I wasn't sure it would be well accepted. I personally have no problem with tribal tattoos, but I'm wondering if your average tiki event attendee would feel it too dark for such an event. Plus, depending on whom would perform the tattoos, there's a whole spiritual and ceremonial side to some of these particular tattoos and artists that may not be a good fit for an event. However, if it is the will of those who want to attend, then it should be included in some manner. |
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Wed, Mar 1, 2006 8:33 AM
Another question to pose. At tiki events where admission is required, do event attendees recieve anything that distinguishes them from the general public? Conventions are fairly popular in my region and attendees generally recieve a pin-on button or pass of some sort (like a concert pass) that signifies them as a paid attendee and ensures their access to attendee exclusive activities. Does this happen at most tiki events? If so, what are some of the "passes" that have been used and what is your personal preference? *Pin-on button |
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Wed, Mar 1, 2006 8:46 AM
... now, you see, this is where the tattoo booth and the reception booth blend into one... |
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Wed, Mar 1, 2006 9:48 AM
edited to avoid redundancy. apologies [ Edited by: caerthe 2006-03-01 09:50 ] |
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Wed, Mar 1, 2006 9:48 AM
Sabina wrote "As an original midwesterner (Ohio) It seems to me even MORE important to have Tiki events in what are otherwise relatively non-Tiki places. These are where Tiki is needed the most, and where Tikiphiles feel the most isolated....." I couldn't agree more heartily. I think it's excellent that there is such an enthusiastic tiki community and selection of events along the coasts and in areas of the Midwest; however, there are many places where the ravages of time have nearly wiped away all signs of the former era and could really use an infusion of the energy that exists elsewhere. |
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Wed, Mar 1, 2006 9:49 AM
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