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Mon, Sep 5, 2005 5:48 PM
Talk about timing. I received the latest issue of The Atlantic Magazine in the mail today, and inside is an article about some artisanal rum that was still being produced, in small qualities, in southern Louisiana and New Orleans. The article is informative and well written, and I'm sure you will learn more of the history of rum. The end of the article switches gears, and talks about Banana Foster desserts, and how to make it properly at home. The article is available on-line, and can be found here ... The same issue also has an article about Ernest Hemingway's love affair with the daiquiri - not the slurpee concotion of today, but the recipe from years past when it was considered a man's drink. This article can be read here. Vern |
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Mon, Sep 5, 2005 6:52 PM
This month's Maui Times Weekly magazine also mentions the original daiquiri and Papa Dobles. Thanks for the links. |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 9:22 AM
Today would have been Ernest Hemingway's 115th birthday. Here's a little history lesson -- and the recipe for the Hemingway Daiquiri. It's an unusual cocktail. Note that I don't say it's a delicious cocktail. :) |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 9:28 AM
Yeah, those ratios are horrible. Go with a teaspoon of Maraschino and a little over a teaspoon of white grapefruit juice and it becomes a winner. Since I'm not a diabetic like Papa Hemmingway was I'll also add 0.5-1tsp. simple syrup or cane syrup. |
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djmont
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 9:41 AM
Oh man, the drink is even worse like that! :) This is Jim Meehan's recipe and I find it a definite improvement. I still think it needs some sugar, though. David J. Montgomery [ Edited by: djmont 2014-07-21 09:42 ] |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 10:00 AM
I like Wayne Curtis on Hemingway: "Turns out, trusting Hemingway on cocktail quality is like trusting an NFL linebacker on how to make pasta. His concern was more about quantity than quality—Hemingway proudly claimed the El Floridita house record of 16 double Daiquiris. Of course he didn’t want sugar in his Daiquiri; those 16 drinks, if traditionally made, would have involved nearly two cups of sugar. If the alcohol didn’t kill him, the sugar certainly would." You've gotta love Papa! David J. Montgomery [ Edited by: djmont 2014-07-21 10:01 ] |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 10:09 AM
In case y'all haven't heard, the best single source of info regarding daiquiris, Hemingway's drinking, Cuba, etc is the book "Potions of the Caribbean"; can't recommend this book enough! |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 10:25 AM
With no offense to Jeff Berry, whom I adore, I think Philip Green's book might be better on the subject of Hemingway's drinking habits. But here's Jeff on Papa: "Only a small minority of his many biographers choose to ignore the pink elephant in the room: Ernest Hemingway, like Errol Flynn, was an alcoholic. And alcoholics do not make good drinks. They make strong drinks. They're not interested in striking the right balance of sweet, sour, strong and weak. They're interested in getting lit." (p. 141-2, Potions) Good stuff! |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 10:39 AM
today's topics full circle: i always thought the hemingway daiquiri was damn good using st james ambre... |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:30 PM
I really like the Hemingway Daiquiri, I'm not sure where I got my recipe from but it differs from lots that I've seen ~ I've always intended to revise the fruit juices & maraschino down but quite like it as it is. Here it is: 2oz rum I have used both Spanish & French white rums, both are good but I prefer the Spanish - the French adds another flavour but there's plenty going on in the drink already. |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:37 PM
there's a lot of recipes out there for the "hemingway daiquiri," and for the "papa dobles," sometimes they are the same sometimes they are different. i make mine 3 oz rum, 1 oz lime, 1/2 grapefruit, 1/4 marschino. sometimes 1 tsp sugar. |
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djmont
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:48 PM
Here is the original recipe for the "E. Henmiway [sic]" Special, as printed in Bar La Florida cocktail guide, 1935: 2 ounces Bacardi. [This is the recipe, as printed, with the original spelling.] |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:50 PM
That is pretty much the recipe I use, plus 0.5 tsp. simple syrup. And I go shaken/strained and not frappe. |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:53 PM
Well, I think the point of the Hemingway daiquiri is as described by David in his blog. Hemingway wanted a strong drink without sugar, so to add more fruit juice and/or sugar, makes it not a Hemingway daiquiri in my mind. Personally, I prefer drinks with the sweet and sour balanced, whether they are strong or weak, so you won't catch me drinking a Hemingway daiquiri unless that's all you got. :wink: |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 2:59 PM
My apologies to Martiki-bird. Through some screw-up with the TC login, that post above (made by myself, tabuzak) was credited to her. So, if you want to agree or disagree with my sort of literal interpretation of the Hemingway daiquiri, please direct Really odd. Jack |
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 3:36 PM
I spy with my little eye... identity theft! :) |
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djmont
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Mon, Jul 21, 2014 4:25 PM
Here's how Hemingway biographer A.E. Hotchner recorded the preparation of Hemingway's Daiquiris that they drank at El Foridita in 1948: "A Papa Doble was compounded of two and a half jiggers of Bacardi White Label Rum, the juice of two limes and half a grapefruit and six drops of maraschino...placed in an electric mixer over shaved ice, whirled vigorously and served foaming in large goblets." Hemingway held the record for drinking 16 in one night. That is 60 ounces of rum -- 2 and 1/3 standard size (750ml) bottles worth. He liked them slushie, because they slid down more easily -- and he liked them without sugar, because that much sugar would kill a horse. :) |
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Tue, Jul 22, 2014 3:03 PM
I believe that Ernest Hemingway was a diabetic, that is why he was served his daiquiri's without sugar Also, One of his favorite drinks aboard his boat Pilar was a Vermouth Panache, a blend of sweet and dry vermouth with Angostura Bitters. 16 of these would kill a horse! -Longboard [ Edited by: Longboard 2014-07-22 15:07 ] |
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Tue, Jul 22, 2014 3:10 PM
Hemingway had a hereditary disease called Hemochromatosis, which can cause diabetes (amongst a litany of other maladies). Ernest's father, Clarence, had the disease, as well as diabetes, and it was likely one of the reasons he killed himself. Papa wanted to avoid that fate, so he ordered his drinks without sugar. Of course, the rampant alcoholism didn't help things, regardless... |
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Tue, Jul 22, 2014 3:42 PM
Wow Professor Cocktail, Just clicked onto your site. Nicely done. I'm enjoying cruising through it. -Longboard |
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djmont
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Tue, Jul 22, 2014 5:10 PM
Thank you! I appreciate that. My liver salutes you! |
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