Great pictures

I found this link to a lot of great polynesian pictures. A few of the pictures are NSFW, so be careful.

http://www.pacific-promotion.com.fr/EN/Photo/Page1.htm

How did the picture of me in my Santa outfit get in there??!!!

Hmmm, lots of pics of the vahines in that traditional Polynesian costume: the neon-colored bikini.

Fast forward to page 7 for some Gaugin paintings.

And, what is UP with including this (and the four others like it?):

On 2004-10-19 12:02, tikibars wrote:
Hmmm, lots of pics of the vahines in that traditional Polynesian costume: the neon-colored bikini.

Fast forward to page 7 for some Gaugin paintings.

And, what is UP with including this (and the four others like it?):

why, that is what happens when you drink a "James' Mistake"!!!! :)

Have a nice Tiki Day!

[ Edited by: mrsmiley on 2004-10-19 12:04 ]

On 2004-10-19 12:04, mrsmiley wrote:
why, that is what happens when you drink a "James' Mistake"!!!! :)

LOL.
Nice one man.
We'll see if Lisa still has all the ingredients when I am in SF next month.
Maybe I can recreate the recipe.

...Or not.

Thanks for posting this link, Flange. Wasting plenty of time today paging through endless pix of Tahiti. By page 30 all the captions revert to French, and the pictures change from vahines and landscapes (and the occasional atom bomb) to drawings of Mosquitoes... and OUR MASCOT:

"Lorsqu'il est effrayé, le diodon (totara en tahitien) se gonfle et devient impossible à attaquer et à dévorer."

It's obviously a phallic symbol. Can't you see the tiki face in it?

On 2004-10-19 08:23, Tiki Flange wrote:
..... A few of the pictures are NSFW, so be careful....

First of all I want to state that this is not a critique of the above statement, but purely an observation.

As an European I grew uo with a very (what I think) normal healthy attitude towards nudity: Since I was a toddler, I went to nude beaches, I grew up with nudity on regular TV and in advertising, and as a teenager, me and my girlfriend could run around naked at my mom's home, it was natural.
I can not help but observe that the American public has an attitude towards nudity that is kind of schizophrenic, (very much like the Japanese): Producing and consuming sexual content like libertines, but in a clandestine way, yet when seeing a nipple in public (like on MTV), all hell brakes loose.

Seeing a warning for female nudity on a 2004 Tiki web site makes me think "Have we developed at all since the Puritan 50s ?"

I know I know, it is politically correct and fair to warn those who do not share attitudes like mine, again, no critique, I am just observing here...

And now I will go back to observing those beautiful Tahitian Vahines, photographed by Teva Sylvain,(who has the Tahitian nude calendar and postcard market wrapped up!), and who is no doubt related to the Sylvain who photographed nude Vahines in Tahiti since the 40s.

more dangerous exposures:
http://www.tahiti-explorer.com/girls.html

Love them Filles des mers du sud!

Here's another great image from the set:

A carver from the Tiki Village in Moorea.

On 2004-10-19 13:39, bigbrotiki wrote:

As an European I grew uo with a very (what I think) normal healthy attitude towards nudity: Since I was a toddler, I went to nude beaches, I grew up with nudity on regular TV and in advertising, and as a teenager, me and my girlfriend could run around naked at my mom's home, it was natural.

Absolutely! From my time in the US, I could never understand how the supposedly 'land of the free' doesn't have the basic freedom to show a bare arse on the tv.

Sadly, I never got to run around the house with naked girlfriends as a teenager, but that shows that we Brit's still have a degree of repression to throw off! :wink:

Excellent photos by the way.

Trader Woody

I've heard that European broadcasters only put nudity in commercails so as to make boring programs like Mr. Bean more enjoyable :P

[ Edited by: tikilee on 2004-10-19 15:38 ]

Trader Woody

We all know how comfortable Sven is with nudity.

Oasis Pool Invasion!

On 2004-10-19 13:39, bigbrotiki wrote:

I can not help but observe that the American public has an attitude towards nudity that is kind of schizophrenic, (very much like the Japanese): Producing and consuming sexual content like libertines, but in a clandestine way, yet when seeing a nipple in public (like on MTV), all hell brakes loose.

Yet without that strange dichotomy would rock and roll have ever been invented? Or how about the Tiki Culture (Mk I)? It's that whole allure of the hidden, desire for the forbidden, tension/release thing. Yeah, the whole sex sells/but yet sexual desires should be repressed idea drives a few people loony but I think it works for us for the most part. :wink:

It's just a cultural difference, nothing more. I think Americans tend to equate nudity with sex where as Germans perhaps equate nudity with not having any clothes (on). For Americans, sex is OK in private or as long as you pay for it (cable TV, porn) but it's not OK for on public TV which is for kids and church people.

I used to be a trash film buff. In the late 50s and early 60s American sleazo film makers would use a couple of standard techniques to get films past the local community censors that they would run into as they traveled the country looking for theaters in which to show their movies. One technique was to shoot the movie in a faux documentary style. A movie with nudity was unacceptable but a movie about nudity was OK! The whole "mondo" themed succesion of "documentaries" took this route to present otherwise objectionable material to those fine folk in Peoria and other Mayberry-esque towns throughout rural America.

Another technique was to put a strong morality message at the end of the film. You can have all the sex and violence you want as long as you close the film by talking about how bad all that sex and violence is. Russ Meyer might have originated this device (if not, was right there in the beginning) and if you go back and watch your copy of "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" you can see that he employed it in that flick even though by the time that film came out it was quite unnecessary. I only mention this because the same phenomenon occurred in Germany in the 70s with the German schundfilm. The Schulmadchen reports and all their imitators used a fake documentary style and morality clause to (apparently) make the content and subject matter of those movies palatable to the general public. Interestingly, and probably contrary to what most Europeans would guess, I believe that the Netherlands and Denmark were the only countries in Europe to legalize X-rated movies before the United States did.

My point? Well, I think I've forgotten it, but it was basically "yeah, we're kind of weird when it comes to sex but so are you and everyone else except perhaps the Polynesians (according to Michener)." :)

Thanks for wasting the 60 minutes I had set aside for steel guitar practice man!

I always try to warn people of the NSFW stuff, just so somebody doesn't unknowingly get into trouble at work because of a link I posted. Our company doesn't have a problem with it, but I know many do.

Lord knows I cause enough trouble for other people without even trying.

that's pretty thoughtful t-flange, sociological discussions are interesting but don't prevent an uptight boss from firing yer arse :)

On 2004-10-19 18:23, Kono wrote:

Another technique was to put a strong morality message at the end of the film. You can have all the sex and violence you want as long as you close the film by talking about how bad all that sex and violence is. Russ Meyer might have originated this device (if not, was right there in the beginning) and if you go back and watch your copy of "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" you can see that he employed it in that flick even though by the time that film came out it was quite unnecessary. I only mention this because the same phenomenon occurred in Germany in the 70s with the German schundfilm. The Schulmadchen reports and all their imitators used a fake documentary style and morality clause to (apparently) make the content and subject matter of those movies palatable to the general public. Interestingly, and probably contrary to what most Europeans would guess, I believe that the Netherlands and Denmark were the only countries in Europe to legalize X-rated movies before the United States did.

Indeed - who can forget the cringe-worthy scene in Taxi Driver where our hero Travis takes the object of his affections to an x-rated movie, which turns out to be some vile-looking biological monstrosity intercut with some cheap sex scenes.

Sweden is another country that allowed X-rated movies very early. Certainly their society didn't collapse as a result. In the UK, they only started allowing such material through a few years ago, so we certainly lag way behind on that score. I think all the prudes over here just finally died off!

Trader Woody
PS - Tiki Flange, I was just leaping on Bigbro's point. Thanks for the pics and the warning too - certainly my boss wouldn't be too keen on me dribbling on my desk all afternoon!

[ Edited by: Trader Woody on 2004-10-20 10:41 ]

Great pictures, but, all morality issues aside..what I'm REALLY wondering is..did anyone tell these people that Guadeloupe and Martinique are in the Carribbean, NOT the Pacific? Oh well, I guess they follow in true tiki map of islands and mysterious lands that float around in the unknown areas of the sea.