3rd anniversary of 9/11 - Beyond Tiki

BD Bamboo Dude Member Orange Countiki, CA Joined: Jul 05, 2004 Posts: 164	BD Bamboo Dude Posted posted on Mon, Sep 13, 2004 9:07 AM On 2004-09-12 10:35, Tiki_Bong wrote: Please, what are your thoughts? On 2004-09-12 17:59, Tiki_Bong wrote: And rightly so, let's not talk about things that make us think objectively... Hey Bong...here's a couple of thoughts for ya: Timothy McVeigh had some issues with how the government handled the Waco incident, as did many of us; however, Timothy McVeigh was executed BECAUSE his reaction...blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and killing a bunch of kids...WAS inappropriate. Here's an interesting interview with Tim: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,109478,00.html The guy seems like a normal dude...seems to think his actions were not so inappropriate. So, MY question is: How do we deal with this type of individual/group? How does the federal government protect its' citizens from this type of treat...I mean, I'm not eager to go down to the federal building to get blown up...so I'd expect for there to be some sort of activity going on to ensure our safety from radical groups/individuals who have some sort of 'beef' with the government. My second thought is that in my earlier post, all I was suggesting is that it is not unreasonable to allow a day to honor our brothers and sisters who died in NYC, in Virginia, and in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001. I think that discussions of our shortcommings can be put on hold for 24 hours while we pay our respects. Finally, I think that objectivity is a MYTH. We are all inclined towards a certain perspective, so I tend to become a little suspicious whe the 'objectivity' card is played. No offense, my friend, I agree with many of the sentiments you've expressed, but I don't consider myself objective by any means. Your experiences allow you to see things I miss. I'd like you to consider my point of view, when it differs, as being valid too, not just too subjective. Anyway, I hope some day that we can discuss this, and other issues, over drinks. You are thought provoking, and that is always appropriate! Mahalo, my friend

On 2004-09-12 10:35, Tiki_Bong wrote:
Please, what are your thoughts?

On 2004-09-12 17:59, Tiki_Bong wrote:
And rightly so, let's not talk about things that make us think objectively...

Hey Bong...here's a couple of thoughts for ya:

Timothy McVeigh had some issues with how the government handled the Waco incident, as did many of us; however, Timothy McVeigh was executed BECAUSE his reaction...blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and killing a bunch of kids...WAS inappropriate. Here's an interesting interview with Tim:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,109478,00.html
The guy seems like a normal dude...seems to think his actions were not so inappropriate.
So, MY question is: How do we deal with this type of individual/group? How does the federal government protect its' citizens from this type of treat...I mean, I'm not eager to go down to the federal building to get blown up...so I'd expect for there to be some sort of activity going on to ensure our safety from radical groups/individuals who have some sort of 'beef' with the government.

My second thought is that in my earlier post, all I was suggesting is that it is not unreasonable to allow a day to honor our brothers and sisters who died in NYC, in Virginia, and in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001. I think that discussions of our shortcommings can be put on hold for 24 hours while we pay our respects.

Finally, I think that objectivity is a MYTH. We are all inclined towards a certain perspective, so I tend to become a little suspicious whe the 'objectivity' card is played. No offense, my friend, I agree with many of the sentiments you've expressed, but I don't consider myself objective by any means. Your experiences allow you to see things I miss. I'd like you to consider my point of view, when it differs, as being valid too, not just too subjective.

Anyway, I hope some day that we can discuss this, and other issues, over drinks. You are thought provoking, and that is always appropriate!

Mahalo, my friend

Post #114136 by Bamboo Dude on Mon, Sep 13, 2004 9:07 AM