Anti-Tiki on Maui - General Tiki

Q QPQ Member Joined: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 6	Q QPQ Posted posted on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 2:45 PM Well...I'm Christian - please don't throw me to the lions.. From a belief standpoint, I have no issue with Tikis (have a few in my house and like to read about the history) It really sounds more like a control thing as others have mentioned. Even though everyone really likes it, it was a bad idea because she didn't come up with it. Seems like gathering written support from others or "leaking it to the press" would be the best options to try to get it moved back outside. Slightly OT, but others have discussed it is the attitude toward mainlanders. As much as I like going to HI, supporting the very thing that many Hawaiians dislike (commercialization)always gives me a pause. I try to do my best to be respectful and since I like the history, it usually breaks the ice when someone is sincere about knowing more. An example is a Road to Hana trip we took. Our driver/guide was not rude by any means, but she kept making sure we knew it was "their" island. After I asked a number of historical questions, showed interest in her home and tried my hand at some Hawaiian beyond Aloha and Mahalo, she turned into a very warm person and we even made some extra stops to jump off a waterfall. I can imagine how some people act when they're on vacation, so I can feel for anybody that has to put up with that on a daily basis. Respect gets respect in many cases and I think they genuinely appreciate that you care about them and the islands. I can see how some feel very bad blood about the whole state issue , but sometimes I think the cause could be furthered better by INVOLVING the average mainlander by showing just what is so special about the Hawaiian culture. These are the people that would stand up with the Hawaiians, not the politicians. Just like every other race, religion, nationality, etc, there are good and there are bad - fact of life. Whoa, sorry that was kind of long. Tikiyaki - good tunes, I think I will purchase some at the end of the week! Everybody have a great day - Ron

Well...I'm Christian - please don't throw me to the lions..

From a belief standpoint, I have no issue with Tikis (have a few in my house and like to read about the history)

It really sounds more like a control thing as others have mentioned. Even though everyone really likes it, it was a bad idea because she didn't come up with it. Seems like gathering written support from others or "leaking it to the press" would be the best options to try to get it moved back outside.

Slightly OT, but others have discussed it is the attitude toward mainlanders.

As much as I like going to HI, supporting the very thing that many Hawaiians dislike (commercialization)always gives me a pause. I try to do my best to be respectful and since I like the history, it usually breaks the ice when someone is sincere about knowing more.

An example is a Road to Hana trip we took. Our driver/guide was not rude by any means, but she kept making sure we knew it was "their" island. After I asked a number of historical questions, showed interest in her home and tried my hand at some Hawaiian beyond Aloha and Mahalo, she turned into a very warm person and we even made some extra stops to jump off a waterfall. I can imagine how some people act when they're on vacation, so I can feel for anybody that has to put up with that on a daily basis. Respect gets respect in many cases and I think they genuinely appreciate that you care about them and the islands.

I can see how some feel very bad blood about the whole state issue , but sometimes I think the cause could be furthered better by INVOLVING the average mainlander by showing just what is so special about the Hawaiian culture. These are the people that would stand up with the Hawaiians, not the politicians.

Just like every other race, religion, nationality, etc, there are good and there are bad - fact of life.

Whoa, sorry that was kind of long.
Tikiyaki - good tunes, I think I will purchase some at the end of the week!

Everybody have a great day - Ron

Post #363843 by QPQ on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 2:45 PM