Is this a Stockton Islander Mug - Collecting Tiki

M midnite Member 37? 47' N, 122? 26' W Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 1230	M midnite Posted posted on Tue, Feb 2, 2010 1:16 PM Stumbled across this topic again, sensed some confusion. That's to be expected if I am being used as any form of authority. Many of the photos on the old threads are gone and in some of those posts I am referencing completely different Spurlin mugs. I think part of the confusion about the vicious virgin is the pair of famous "Islanders" in California. She, along with others from Spurlin, was a Los Angeles Islander feature. It's real easy to go from La Cienaga's to Stockton's Islander. Sellers and collectors alike can transpose one to the other and muddle where a particular mug was used. My take is OMC did make the vicious virgins that are marked "Islander" and Stella also made some "nude woman" mugs. As seen in the photos above there is a marked difference in the quality of these vessels. Compare the top one in this thread to the one below it. Notice the telling three prong mark on the bottom of the first mug. The other, marked, mug is much more defined and detailed. It is an Otagiri product, as is the one in my collection, see photo here: The other mugs are some of the Spurlin mugs in my collection, the ones I could easily reach and that best define Stella's "look." Stella! The big Ku is not marked "Islander", but I've seen some that are and there is a classic photo out there of Granny (The black widow as I know her) enjoying a cocktail at LA's Islander in the same mug. Some may recognize the similarly glazed native with the earrings. Lastly, is the mug, the thin gold one, which started much of this; it is the one I first asked Bob at OA about so many years ago. As evidenced many times in the tiki mug world one mug commercially produced was also manufactured by smaller makers or home hobbyists. I believe that is the answer about these vicious virgin mugs. One sees those marked "Islander", made by Otagiri. Others, like the one at the top of this thread are presumably a product of Spurlin/Stella. Were these used at LA's Islander? Not sure, seriously doubt it, but I can easily understand how some are represented that way. Now, let's talk about Imperial Glass's "shotgun" glasses and their use at Trader Vic's. Or in the alternative, how did Tiki Bob end up in New Orleans? Ha ha ha, ohhhh. midnite

Stumbled across this topic again, sensed some confusion. That's to be expected if I am being used as any form of authority. Many of the photos on the old threads are gone and in some of those posts I am referencing completely different Spurlin mugs. I think part of the confusion about the vicious virgin is the pair of famous "Islanders" in California. She, along with others from Spurlin, was a Los Angeles Islander feature. It's real easy to go from La Cienaga's to Stockton's Islander. Sellers and collectors alike can transpose one to the other and muddle where a particular mug was used.

My take is OMC did make the vicious virgins that are marked "Islander" and Stella also made some "nude woman" mugs. As seen in the photos above there is a marked difference in the quality of these vessels. Compare the top one in this thread to the one below it. Notice the telling three prong mark on the bottom of the first mug. The other, marked, mug is much more defined and detailed. It is an Otagiri product, as is the one in my collection, see photo here:

The other mugs are some of the Spurlin mugs in my collection, the ones I could easily reach and that best define Stella's "look." Stella! The big Ku is not marked "Islander", but I've seen some that are and there is a classic photo out there of Granny (The black widow as I know her) enjoying a cocktail at LA's Islander in the same mug. Some may recognize the similarly glazed native with the earrings. Lastly, is the mug, the thin gold one, which started much of this; it is the one I first asked Bob at OA about so many years ago.

As evidenced many times in the tiki mug world one mug commercially produced was also manufactured by smaller makers or home hobbyists. I believe that is the answer about these vicious virgin mugs. One sees those marked "Islander", made by Otagiri. Others, like the one at the top of this thread are presumably a product of Spurlin/Stella. Were these used at LA's Islander? Not sure, seriously doubt it, but I can easily understand how some are represented that way.

Now, let's talk about Imperial Glass's "shotgun" glasses and their use at Trader Vic's. Or in the alternative, how did Tiki Bob end up in New Orleans? Ha ha ha, ohhhh.

midnite

Post #508545 by midnite on Tue, Feb 2, 2010 1:16 PM