I Bet You Can't Move A Topic To Bilge - Bilge

T telescopes Tiki Socialite Palm Springs Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 618	T telescopes Posted posted on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 3:57 PM On 2010-10-11 14:56, talo ka wrote: i can't pass judgement like that on a subject or thread. no banning to bilge from me. You're right. The discussion point that woofmutt is making, I think?, is that it is ironic when a person begins a thread, erases their comments, calls for the thread to be locked down and then continues to post on the thread. In a thread called http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=8210&forum=7&start=90&hilite=respect the conversation breaks down and deteriorates even while important points are being made. The thread is then locked down and the discussion is lost to antiquity at the bottom of the tiki well. However, history being what it is, repeats itself. Wise historians learn from the past and go back and "check their history". What better way than to go to the source and pick up where the conversation left off. When threads are locked, history can be forgotten. An argument can be made that this is the way history has always been. However, we live in a "new" age - an age where discussions can continue for centuries or even beyond by simply allowing people to pick up a discussion where others left off. Think about it. Imagine being able to join a conversation begun by Daniel Webster, Jefferson, Caesar, etc. You get the point. Yes, I can imagine their will be times when threads are locked for who knows what reason. But, should they remain locked? Seriously, I am a bit miffed that I didn't get to finish my conversation with Lucas about the superiority quitters (people who quit smoking) often exhibit to people who choose to participate in smoking or other vices. I was hoping to discuss how this own website, Tikicentral, is in some ways, no less a vice than smoking. But at last, the thread was locked. And slowly, it vanished away. Democracy is fundamental to freedom. Freedom is not simply having nothing left to lose - to recall Chris Christopherson. It is fundamental to our ability to self-actualize. And that, to me, is what tiki represents. Okay, I am way off topic, but let me finish. John Dewey held the belief that only the rich could experience true democracy because they were the only ones who can afford "leisure" time. The pursuit of leisure time is a fundamental reflection of whether an individual actually has a democratic state of being. To put it simply, "Are you able to enjoy escaping in a manner you want to?" If the answer is yes, you are experiencing a benefit of democracy. You are able to choose how you spend your time. The argument actually goes deeper than that, but to me, this is one of the fundamental aspects of tiki. It is a reflection and an effect of being in a state of democracy. Locking the thread is not.

On 2010-10-11 14:56, talo ka wrote:
i can't pass judgement like that on a subject or thread. no banning to bilge from me.

You're right.

The discussion point that woofmutt is making, I think?, is that it is ironic when a person begins a thread, erases their comments, calls for the thread to be locked down and then continues to post on the thread.

In a thread called http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=8210&forum=7&start=90&hilite=respect the conversation breaks down and deteriorates even while important points are being made. The thread is then locked down and the discussion is lost to antiquity at the bottom of the tiki well.

However, history being what it is, repeats itself. Wise historians learn from the past and go back and "check their history". What better way than to go to the source and pick up where the conversation left off.

When threads are locked, history can be forgotten. An argument can be made that this is the way history has always been. However, we live in a "new" age - an age where discussions can continue for centuries or even beyond by simply allowing people to pick up a discussion where others left off.

Think about it. Imagine being able to join a conversation begun by Daniel Webster, Jefferson, Caesar, etc. You get the point.

Yes, I can imagine their will be times when threads are locked for who knows what reason. But, should they remain locked?

Seriously, I am a bit miffed that I didn't get to finish my conversation with Lucas about the superiority quitters (people who quit smoking) often exhibit to people who choose to participate in smoking or other vices.

I was hoping to discuss how this own website, Tikicentral, is in some ways, no less a vice than smoking.

But at last, the thread was locked. And slowly, it vanished away.

Democracy is fundamental to freedom. Freedom is not simply having nothing left to lose - to recall Chris Christopherson. It is fundamental to our ability to self-actualize. And that, to me, is what tiki represents.

Okay, I am way off topic, but let me finish. John Dewey held the belief that only the rich could experience true democracy because they were the only ones who can afford "leisure" time. The pursuit of leisure time is a fundamental reflection of whether an individual actually has a democratic state of being.

To put it simply, "Are you able to enjoy escaping in a manner you want to?" If the answer is yes, you are experiencing a benefit of democracy. You are able to choose how you spend your time.

The argument actually goes deeper than that, but to me, this is one of the fundamental aspects of tiki. It is a reflection and an effect of being in a state of democracy.

Locking the thread is not.

Post #559107 by telescopes on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 3:57 PM