Post #559362 by aquarj on Tue, Oct 12, 2010 3:36 PM

This thread is fine, but my opinion is that it belongs in Bilge. That is NOT an insult to anyone. Why should it be? What is so insulting about saying that a thread belongs in Bilge because its INTENTION is to be anything goes, as opposed to tiki-related. No slashing. No burning. No hypocrisy. Nothing stopping anyone from enjoying "what we are passionate about" (ie, food) - just take the discussion to the right place.

Mai Tai's point of view was not refuted with any empirical evidence. Central to his point is that this thread is NOT trying to be tiki-related, and this has been roundly AGREED by all sides. I believe Mai Tai's only point was that "anything goes" threads belong in Bilge as opposed to a specific tiki-related forum such as "Tiki Drinks and Food". And I agree with his point. He wasn't trying to kill the thread or shut anybody up, or any other strawman meanie stuff that was attributed to him. Mai Tai stated several times that it would be great to see an "anything goes" food discussion continue (you know, people do post on Bilge topics - it does happen!)

On 2010-10-08 20:11, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I know you have other ideas,but you just don't show up at someones house, Then tell them that what they "like" or "believe" is not important and piss in the pool and kick the cat on the way out!

I would say that's very Bad Manners!
(..)
I myself am hardwired to rebel against anyone trying to force their point of view on some one else, I don't care what it is.

Well, that all paints a picture, but ultimately people do communicate differing points of view. Certainly it is legitimate to hold the point of view that non-tiki stuff should go in the non-tiki forum areas. Speaking that point of view is no more dogmatic than taking the opposite point of view ("MY thread doesn't have to be tiki-related").

In fact MANY PEOPLE ON TIKICENTRAL would say that those who insist on defying the basic conventions of the community here (ie, where to post different things, etc.) are the ones who show bad manners. It might feel like some kind of cool rebel thing to shout down anyone who says "let's keep it tiki", but it's just a dogma.

I suppose the people actively involved in a thread could see it as their "pool" that gets pissed in by unwanted opinions. But by the same token TC itself is a "pool" that MANY have exited as they perceive it turning yellow, due in no small part to the ones who insist on making their own rules or just plain ignoring the fact that people prefer the tiki forums to be tiki-related.

As Sabu said, this kind of "anything goes" thread is still better than all the singular "look at me" threads, because all the discussion has moved along quite well in one place (and with a nice family tone). So as just ONE THREAD I don't think it's really hurting anybody, and don't personally care that much if it moves. But all the same I do think that if anyone cares enough to actually make an effort NOT to "piss in the pool" of the larger TC community, then they would be more willing to try to understand why this kind of thread, posted in this kind of forum, is kind of a "screw you" to the larger TC community and the conventions of where people post things.

-Randy