"What's my Beef" with Atomic Tiki Punk - Bilge

MT Mai Tai Tiki Socialite Exotic Isle of Alameda Joined: Mar 21, 2004 Posts: 1438	MT Mai Tai Posted posted on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:05 AM On 2010-10-13 19:29, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: I am so glad this thread is back on track! I am sorry to all of you for my outburst but since no one seemed to be moderating Mai Tai's disruptions,I took it upon my self to confront him, very unpleasant episode I know. On 2010-10-13 22:12, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Well leleliz,I would say you have a good "Beef" and what you said is just good sense I only wish you had said it to Mai Tai during his week long disruption on the food thread please note that I created this thread to get the disruptor's off my "Food" thread which is conducted with a very positive attitude as I do in the other threads you mentioned. What disruptions? I've stayed off your thread for more than two days. And did I, or did I not apologize for using harsh disruptive language? On 2010-10-07 04:25, Mai Tai wrote: My apologies if anyone was truly offended by my language. I feel that I had to include strong language, otherwise it would have just fallen on deaf ears. And yes, bickering and nay-saying gets us nowhere. Again, I appreciate the amount of exuberance and ohana that has gathered on this thread. My own personal opinion is that most of the stuff on this thread isn't tiki, and doesn't belong in tiki food and drinks, but instead belongs in Beyond Tiki. And if the moderators decide that there's enough tiki dishes in this thread, and decide not to move it, then no big deal, I've stated my opinion and said my peace. And at the end of the day, who really cares about any of this??? It's a tiki website, not the solution to all of the world's woes - although maybe it is a solution to some of mine! :wink: Like I said before, what more do you want, a pound of Tiki Flesh? On 2010-10-08 15:35, Mai Tai wrote: What else can I do, give a pound of tiki flesh? I've let it go, I've asked us all to be adults, and I've said that the last thing that I want is for constant rehashing and taunting and name calling to create a downward spiral that is going to get your thread locked. But evidently acting like a mature adult is beyond you. You can't let it go over in the other thread, and you threaten me in this thread, even after you "invite" me and others to post and vent whatever they want without any fear of repercussions. It seems that you feel that you can joke around in a post, and post pics of tiki burritos, etc., but others can't: On 2010-10-08 20:11, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Mai Tai,Thank you for the Olive Branch, my PM to you should not have been construed as any sort of attack (facetious ribbing Yes! most certainly) Talk about being able to dish it out but not being able to take it!!! My Count Chocula post was most certainly facetious ribbing as well. So it's perfectly okay for you to facetiously rib someone else, but not let anyone reciprocate the action. You call me a poor sport, but it is you that is being the poor sport! And interestingly enough, you then quickly follow with: On 2010-10-08 20:11, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: I know you have other ideas,but you just don't show up at someones house, Then tell them that what they "like" or "believe" is not important and piss in the pool and kick the cat on the way out! I would say that's very Bad Manners! Mai Tai Quote: "I have no fucking idea how this, or the majority of the posts on this thread is Tiki, but due to popular request, here it is. Maybe this thread should be moved to bilge? Or just rename the whole website BilgeCentral.com?" So yes! your going to bristle some feathers. I myself am hardwired to rebel against anyone trying to force their point of view on some one else, I don't care what it is. I don't see how that's letting it go. In fact, it appears to me that it is the exact opposite of "letting it go". In fact, after I apologized for the second time, you rehashed it yet again! And you call me the one being rude! What charm school did you graduate from??? On 2010-10-12 17:39, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Randy,This is a Thread about what Tiki Central members are cooking at home,it includes so called Tiki related dishes but we have established that many of you here don't have a clue what "Tiki Food" is,Hey guess what?there is no such thing as "Tiki Food!" so you don't have a foot to stand on when you judge this thread as non-Tiki and should be sent to bilge. It is a "Food" thread that is in the "Tiki Drinks & Food" category how hard is that for you and Mai Tai etc. to understand? Well, some have politely disagreed with you. Oh, at first I was snippy, and used the word "fuck". But I apologized for that. Others have tried to politely disagree too. On 2010-10-12 15:36, aquarj wrote: This thread is fine, but my opinion is that it belongs in Bilge. That is NOT an insult to anyone. Why should it be? What is so insulting about saying that a thread belongs in Bilge because its INTENTION is to be anything goes, as opposed to tiki-related. No slashing. No burning. No hypocrisy. Nothing stopping anyone from enjoying "what we are passionate about" (ie, food) - just take the discussion to the right place. And your response is usually something like this: On 2010-10-12 17:39, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: The fact that you and a few others feel that you can just show up and completely disrupt this thread "Because you Disagree" after all its a "Cooking Thread" not a "what is Tiki and what is not" thread, you are clearly posting in the wrong area of TC you hypocrite! just shows what rude jerks you are, On 2010-10-08 12:40, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: To those intolerant few who thought we should not even be here,or at the very least try to dictate what kind of food should be here on this humble thread, do some legwork & get your fact's straight. Then get a Mai Tai and loosen the hell up. Oh and Randy if you think just because you have a different opinion,it gives you license to forego any semblance of manners well that just makes you rude & ignorant. On 2010-10-07 21:28, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Bazinga! In your face Tiki-Stalinist! How do you like me now! Hey Mike can you order me some Tiki Enchiladas,please! On 2010-10-06 23:48, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Tonight we had Tiki Burritos.... And then more than two days after I have posted anything, you still feel the need to post this: On 2010-10-13 19:29, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: I am so glad this thread is back on track! I am sorry to all of you for my outburst but since no one seemed to be moderating Mai Tai's disruptions,I took it upon my self to confront him, very unpleasant episode I know. And on top of not being able to let the issue go that someone disagrees with you, because I have an opinion that dissents from yours, you then feel the need to call me a jerk, rude, a douche, a Stalinist, Tiki Fonzi, The Disruptor, pinhead, asshole, etc., and even feel the need to threaten me. Let me state for the record: I DON"T CARE IF THIS THREAD WAS MOVED OR NOT!!! I don't care if it was moved to Beyond Tiki, or Bilge, or wherever. I've said that before. And because there are several people that enjoy this thread, I'd hate for their sakes to see it get locked. But if you keep poking and taking swipes at me, my opinion on this might change. And let me state this for the record as well: I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR OPINION OF WHAT TIKI FOOD IS!!! Whether you think it's Spam Musubi or chicken enchiladas, I DON'T CARE!!! And you shouldn't care that I don't care. So give the whole name calling bullshit and threats a rest. So here's the deal on what's going to happen now. I could whine and complain about all of this, and most likely get this thread locked or worse. But why bother? This whole thing is ridiculous, and like others (including a moderator) have told me, it sucks that you had a meltdown just because I feel that a thread should be moved. There are others here that might not be as gracious if they were on the receiving end of what I had to receive from you. But my feelings of not taking any further action is contingent on you not bothering me anymore - that means no "facetious ribbing", no name calling, no threats, etc. I don't want to receive any PM's from you. I am not going to post on this thread anymore. I am not going to send you PM's. In fact, I am not going to post on any of your threads, and am going to steer clear of you on this site. I suggest you do the same. It's a shame that it's come to this, but there you go. Hopefully in the future, we'll be able to laugh about this over drinks. Until then, TIKI FONZI OUT!!!

On 2010-10-13 19:29, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I am so glad this thread is back on track! I am sorry to all of you for my outburst
but since no one seemed to be moderating Mai Tai's disruptions,I took it upon my self
to confront him, very unpleasant episode I know.

On 2010-10-13 22:12, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:

Well leleliz,I would say you have a good "Beef" and what you said is just good sense
I only wish you had said it to Mai Tai during his week long disruption on the food thread

please note that I created this thread to get the disruptor's off my "Food" thread which is conducted with
a very positive attitude as I do in the other threads you mentioned.

What disruptions? I've stayed off your thread for more than two days. And did I, or did I not apologize for using harsh disruptive language?

On 2010-10-07 04:25, Mai Tai wrote:

My apologies if anyone was truly offended by my language. I feel that I had to include strong language, otherwise it would have just fallen on deaf ears. And yes, bickering and nay-saying gets us nowhere.

Again, I appreciate the amount of exuberance and ohana that has gathered on this thread. My own personal opinion is that most of the stuff on this thread isn't tiki, and doesn't belong in tiki food and drinks, but instead belongs in Beyond Tiki. And if the moderators decide that there's enough tiki dishes in this thread, and decide not to move it, then no big deal, I've stated my opinion and said my peace. And at the end of the day, who really cares about any of this??? It's a tiki website, not the solution to all of the world's woes - although maybe it is a solution to some of mine! :wink:

Like I said before, what more do you want, a pound of Tiki Flesh?

On 2010-10-08 15:35, Mai Tai wrote:
What else can I do, give a pound of tiki flesh?

I've let it go, I've asked us all to be adults, and I've said that the last thing that I want is for constant rehashing and taunting and name calling to create a downward spiral that is going to get your thread locked. But evidently acting like a mature adult is beyond you. You can't let it go over in the other thread, and you threaten me in this thread, even after you "invite" me and others to post and vent whatever they want without any fear of repercussions.

It seems that you feel that you can joke around in a post, and post pics of tiki burritos, etc., but others can't:

On 2010-10-08 20:11, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Mai Tai,Thank you for the Olive Branch, my PM to you should not have been construed as any sort of attack (facetious ribbing Yes! most certainly)

Talk about being able to dish it out but not being able to take it!!! My Count Chocula post was most certainly facetious ribbing as well. So it's perfectly okay for you to facetiously rib someone else, but not let anyone reciprocate the action. You call me a poor sport, but it is you that is being the poor sport!

And interestingly enough, you then quickly follow with:

On 2010-10-08 20:11, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I know you have other ideas,but you just don't show up at someones house, Then tell them that what they "like" or "believe" is not important
and piss in the pool and kick the cat on the way out!

I would say that's very Bad Manners!

Mai Tai Quote:
"I have no fucking idea how this, or the majority of the posts on this thread is Tiki, but due to popular request, here it is. Maybe this thread should be moved to bilge? Or just rename the whole website BilgeCentral.com?"

So yes! your going to bristle some feathers.
I myself am hardwired to rebel against anyone trying to force their point of view on some one else, I don't care what it is.

I don't see how that's letting it go. In fact, it appears to me that it is the exact opposite of "letting it go". In fact, after I apologized for the second time, you rehashed it yet again! And you call me the one being rude! What charm school did you graduate from???

On 2010-10-12 17:39, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Randy,This is a Thread about what Tiki Central members are cooking at home,it includes so called Tiki related dishes
but we have established that many of you here don't have a clue what "Tiki Food" is,Hey guess what?there is no such thing as "Tiki Food!"
so you don't have a foot to stand on when you judge this thread as non-Tiki and should be sent to bilge.

It is a "Food" thread that is in the "Tiki Drinks & Food" category how hard is that for you and Mai Tai etc. to understand?

Well, some have politely disagreed with you. Oh, at first I was snippy, and used the word "fuck". But I apologized for that. Others have tried to politely disagree too.

On 2010-10-12 15:36, aquarj wrote:
This thread is fine, but my opinion is that it belongs in Bilge. That is NOT an insult to anyone. Why should it be? What is so insulting about saying that a thread belongs in Bilge because its INTENTION is to be anything goes, as opposed to tiki-related. No slashing. No burning. No hypocrisy. Nothing stopping anyone from enjoying "what we are passionate about" (ie, food) - just take the discussion to the right place.

And your response is usually something like this:

On 2010-10-12 17:39, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
The fact that you and a few others feel that you can just show up and completely disrupt this thread "Because you Disagree"
after all its a "Cooking Thread" not a "what is Tiki and what is not" thread, you are clearly posting in the wrong area of TC you hypocrite!

just shows what rude jerks you are,

On 2010-10-08 12:40, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
To those intolerant few who thought we should not even be here,or at the very least try to dictate what kind of food should be here
on this humble thread, do some legwork & get your fact's straight.
Then get a Mai Tai and loosen the hell up.

Oh and Randy if you think just because you have a different opinion,it gives you license to forego any semblance of manners
well that just makes you rude & ignorant.

On 2010-10-07 21:28, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Bazinga!
In your face Tiki-Stalinist! How do you like me now!
Hey Mike can you order me some Tiki Enchiladas,please!

On 2010-10-06 23:48, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Tonight we had Tiki Burritos....

And then more than two days after I have posted anything, you still feel the need to post this:

On 2010-10-13 19:29, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I am so glad this thread is back on track! I am sorry to all of you for my outburst
but since no one seemed to be moderating Mai Tai's disruptions,I took it upon my self
to confront him, very unpleasant episode I know.

And on top of not being able to let the issue go that someone disagrees with you, because I have an opinion that dissents from yours, you then feel the need to call me a jerk, rude, a douche, a Stalinist, Tiki Fonzi, The Disruptor, pinhead, asshole, etc., and even feel the need to threaten me.

Let me state for the record: I DON"T CARE IF THIS THREAD WAS MOVED OR NOT!!! I don't care if it was moved to Beyond Tiki, or Bilge, or wherever. I've said that before. And because there are several people that enjoy this thread, I'd hate for their sakes to see it get locked. But if you keep poking and taking swipes at me, my opinion on this might change.

And let me state this for the record as well: I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR OPINION OF WHAT TIKI FOOD IS!!! Whether you think it's Spam Musubi or chicken enchiladas, I DON'T CARE!!! And you shouldn't care that I don't care. So give the whole name calling bullshit and threats a rest.

So here's the deal on what's going to happen now. I could whine and complain about all of this, and most likely get this thread locked or worse. But why bother? This whole thing is ridiculous, and like others (including a moderator) have told me, it sucks that you had a meltdown just because I feel that a thread should be moved. There are others here that might not be as gracious if they were on the receiving end of what I had to receive from you.

But my feelings of not taking any further action is contingent on you not bothering me anymore - that means no "facetious ribbing", no name calling, no threats, etc. I don't want to receive any PM's from you. I am not going to post on this thread anymore. I am not going to send you PM's. In fact, I am not going to post on any of your threads, and am going to steer clear of you on this site. I suggest you do the same. It's a shame that it's come to this, but there you go. Hopefully in the future, we'll be able to laugh about this over drinks. Until then, TIKI FONZI OUT!!!

Post #559742 by Mai Tai on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:05 AM