Squid's Aquarium of Art & Oddities... New Stuff pg. 2 - Tiki Gallery

S squid Member Joined: Sep 30, 2002 Posts: 1462	S squid Posted posted on Mon, Nov 1, 2010 7:16 PM Well it's not like this is the first time I've been paraded out in front of the whole class as a bad example. Think Junior High (or as they call it now, Middle School) and Squid has just been accused by the "art" teacher of copying the work of some famous artist, publicly. Eeeesh. I had never even heard of said artist but I guess I was a convenient "illustration" to segue into the discussion of plagiarism that followed. Needless to say, I didn't take part in that discussion. Although embarrassing and infuriating at the time, I find it quite hilarious that probably 1/2 of my output in the last 15 years was translating other people's designs into 3-D... with their permission of course. :D So... F.U., Mrs. (Name Redacted) and the horse you rode in on! And there were other times when I DESERVED to be made an example of. But I can't really go into that since this IS a family show... TMI? Sorry. Back to the gallery part of our program. As I said before it's great that folks keep stuff for posterity or posterior or whatever. I totally forgot about this one. In the very early days of Tiki Farm (2001) Holden approached me to make a mug celebrating the Book of Tiki and recognizing its author Sven Kirsten for the massive labor of love he had created. I knocked around several ideas until I landed on what I thought was concept befitting the project. For photo and reference of "the bad example", click the following link and scroll down to bigbrotiki's first post but PLEASE refrain from commenting on that thread so it doesn't get derailed again. Look, read, then come back. http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=38240&forum=18&start=15 Here's the original concept: BOT as a base (The foundation of tiki, if you will). Atop the book, a stoic moai having been chipped away to reveal the man behind the book/movement/revival. I ran it by Holden and he was in agreement, so the initial rough clay version was done as you see in the photo. But alas, I was in violation of the "Thou shalt not make any REALISTIC graven image" rule. I don't recall seeing Sven "recoil in horror" but he did come down to the farm and art direct for a few hours to guide me away from the well-thought out mug I had "whipped up". I sat with him and "squeezed out" what we now know as the SvenTiki. So in reality, Sven should be given most of the credit for that very successful mug. However I think the original version would have done just as well and would have been a worthy and attractive tribute. Now remember folks, opinions are like a**holes, but having an opinion doesn't necessarily make you one. So don't jump down BigBro's throat. I'm not trying to start any crap here. Just stating MY opinion as "the bad example" for the class. And while Sven is certainly entitled to his opinion, documenting history does not entitle one to dictate the rules of the renaissance. That's up to the artists and musicians themselves. The good stuff will float and the crap will sink to the bottom all on its own. Back to the art...Sorry Sven, I couldn't resist... :lol:

Well it's not like this is the first time I've been paraded out in front of the whole class as a bad example. Think Junior High (or as they call it now, Middle School) and Squid has just been accused by the "art" teacher of copying the work of some famous artist, publicly. Eeeesh. I had never even heard of said artist but I guess I was a convenient "illustration" to segue into the discussion of plagiarism that followed. Needless to say, I didn't take part in that discussion. Although embarrassing and infuriating at the time, I find it quite hilarious that probably 1/2 of my output in the last 15 years was translating other people's designs into 3-D... with their permission of course. :D

So... F.U., Mrs. (Name Redacted) and the horse you rode in on!

And there were other times when I DESERVED to be made an example of. But I can't really go into that since this IS a family show...

TMI? Sorry. Back to the gallery part of our program.

As I said before it's great that folks keep stuff for posterity or posterior or whatever. I totally forgot about this one.
In the very early days of Tiki Farm (2001) Holden approached me to make a mug celebrating the Book of Tiki and recognizing its author Sven Kirsten for the massive labor of love he had created. I knocked around several ideas until I landed on what I thought was concept befitting the project.

For photo and reference of "the bad example", click the following link and scroll down to bigbrotiki's first post but PLEASE refrain from commenting on that thread so it doesn't get derailed again. Look, read, then come back.

http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=38240&forum=18&start=15

Here's the original concept:
BOT as a base (The foundation of tiki, if you will). Atop the book, a stoic moai having been chipped away to reveal the man behind the book/movement/revival. I ran it by Holden and he was in agreement, so the initial rough clay version was done as you see in the photo.

But alas, I was in violation of the "Thou shalt not make any REALISTIC graven image" rule. I don't recall seeing Sven "recoil in horror" but he did come down to the farm and art direct for a few hours to guide me away from the well-thought out mug I had "whipped up". I sat with him and "squeezed out" what we now know as the SvenTiki. So in reality, Sven should be given most of the credit for that very successful mug. However I think the original version would have done just as well and would have been a worthy and attractive tribute.

Now remember folks, opinions are like a**holes, but having an opinion doesn't necessarily make you one. So don't jump down BigBro's throat. I'm not trying to start any crap here. Just stating MY opinion as "the bad example" for the class.

And while Sven is certainly entitled to his opinion, documenting history does not entitle one to dictate the rules of the renaissance. That's up to the artists and musicians themselves. The good stuff will float and the crap will sink to the bottom all on its own.

Back to the art...Sorry Sven, I couldn't resist... :lol:

Post #562947 by squid on Mon, Nov 1, 2010 7:16 PM