Post #690044 by jimsflies on Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:13 PM

On 2013-08-13 04:25, White Devil wrote:

On 2013-08-12 21:17, mymotiki wrote:
It just figures that it would show up broken because WHITE DEVIL didn't pack it right. He has the same kind of business ethics as BITCH DOCTOR

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. The White Devil paid UPS pack & ship professionals to pack it, but the buyer decided to take the risk of having the Postal Workers Union handle his merch to save money, rather than UPS. The Postal Workers Union did their thing, but rather than take responsibility and perhaps learn something from the experience, the buyer has decided to make The White Devil both the bad guy and the victim buy making a Paypal claim.

This guy has been nothing but trouble from the git-go: all are advised to keep away.

My intent with bumping this thread was not to disparage you in any way...I'm just looking for a couple inexpensive tikis for the Kio' Wai Lounge. I personally hate dragging all the dirty laundry out.

I'm not normally a pain to deal with. In general, I would say I have the patience of Job (I run an online forum like TC (different subject matter) and get to deal with fights between members all the time). Further ran an online store for several years and have completed over 10,000 sales online...you can see from my paypal rating, I'm no newbie when it comes to online transactions. I have been in the position of both buyer and seller and empathize with both points of view.

So, yeah I didn't want to pay $60 for UPS shipping plus the $18 for packing when the post office shipping was $28 on a $35 plastic tiki. I disagree that the post office is more likely to break it than UPS, however for $18 in packaging it shouldn't have broken with either. Despite paying a professional packing price, it clearly was not (it must have been the shoddy work of the Box Packers Union). The packaging failed because the tiki was placed into a box of peanuts of which there weren't enough and "settled" during transit. Besides not enough peanuts, it wasn't wrapped in any bubble wrap. During transit the peanuts had "settled" and it shifted to to one end of the box. Effectively with a piece of cardboard between the statue and anything that hit it.

I agree with others here that it is pretty thin and does seem like it would be easily broken. But I think you already had a sense of that since you had done some work on the base (which you mentioned in the pm's and I was fine with).

During our pm's I was hoping we could come to a reasonable agreement (e.g., 50/50 spit) since I don't think that either of us should get stuck with 100% of the cost ($81.00). Admittedly I didn't propose that exact option because I was hoping you would propose something first. But it became clear that you were putting the blame all on me because I opted for USPS shipping. It is my understanding as an online seller, it is ultimately the seller's responsibility for the item to arrive safely. You could have refused to send via USPS if you felt that strongly that the Postal Workers do such a bad job.