On 2014-05-18 14:36, ErichTroudt wrote:
so your sentiments are essentially meaningless.
Yet you bothered to reply to them.... Therefore deflecting Thors purpose of this thread...which he just asked people not to do.
but it is not up to you to decide when it is over
but its up to you to decide its not over? huh...I didn't realized you opinion should be valued more than mine.
Bottom line here is, I gave my opinion, some liked it some didn't. I apologized for deflecting the thread. It was done.
Then along comes you to kick the hornets nest again...
Some people just aren't gracious in victory I guess.
So before you hit reply, maybe do like Thor says and keep the focus....
I got no problems stop posting on this thread, unless people keep provoking me saying offensive stuff, telling me my opinions don't matter and I'm related to the owner....
Just to add some clarity since your post is all over the place contextually
And you have a penchant for misinterpretation & inaccuracy
I am assuming that you are addressing my comment and someone else's with a blanket reply?
Just what "victory" are you referring to?
Just whom, said you are not entitiled to your opinion?
Just whom is kicking the proverbial hornets nest?
As a matter of fact it was you whom posted a declaration for us to stop pursuing this matter
which is much more then simply stating an opinion, then you seem surprised & indignant of a rebuttal, seriously?
"This is beating a dead horse. It has to stop...people calling for "justice" and saying the owner needs to be held accountable for actions....its gone to far.
people keep demanding an answer that has been already given... Rufus is alive according to his owner.
Its done.
Just because he didn't end up where "you" wanted is no reason to keep dragging this out.
Its over."
But you then use nonfactual and inaccurate statements to make your point, so of course your sentiments are essentially meaningless
since they are not based on fact, I also surmise your true intention was the debasement of our activities
also to devalue our concerns, which again is more then just an opinion.
On 2014-05-18 12:44, ErichTroudt wrote:
Actually, that summary is missing a lot of what has transpired.
Lets all take a moment and look at this from a distance, I know some you you have "skin in the game" but just for a second lets review and consider some thoughts....
If the owner didn't care about rufus why would he have kept him around as long as he did? We know for a Fact he left rufus there and did construction around him because it he knew it would be harmful to move him.
We know for a fact he paid someone (jorge) to take care of him.
Why would he do this if he didn't care? He would have thrown him in the dumpster and continued on.
He gave a deadline of wanting to sell rufus. Tiki central and newspaper and fundraisers went to work...but if you review old threads, by the time damons agreed and measurements were made it was way past the deadline...
There was even possibilities of private owners but people on this website kept saying he should go somewhere public..
moving rufus safely became less important than moving him safely to a place "you" wanted.
The owner then changes his mind because the deadline was missed. Says he will build a tank. Says you can donate to the transport and tank.... people balk at that idea...why? because rufus isn't going where "they" want..... people come on here and say horrible rude things about him, his character, his business etc.
Why? because he changed his mind? Because you all missed the deadline? Because rufus didn't go where "you" wanted?
Rufus disappears...rumors abound.....is he in a tank? is he in the long beach river? is he in the pond?
People automatically assume the worst and call him more names....
the owner finally replies to the press, "rufus is alive and well in a pond"
a pond is better than the dumpster..... so obviously he still must care about the fish
people call him more names, say its not appropriate living space (even though internet video proves otherwise) and demand a picture... they discuss breaking into his property
They make demands after calling him more horrible names, a liar and threatening to perform illegal acts against him... then everyone sits back and wonders and complains why he won't come up with a picture?
In the chinese culture, "face" is a big thing. Once the owner said "he's alive and well", the press calling back and asking him to prove it is the owner losing face....you politely called him a liar, and I would be surprised if he ever speaks about it again...
That all said, the biggest thing here is... Rufus is a fish. Few different turns in life and hes on a south american dinner plate. Fish die every day being transported to pet stores, peoples houses,...we've all flushed a dead one down the toilet. He could die in the pond, he could have died at damons, he could just die for any reason, everything does..
This is beating a dead horse. It has to stop...people calling for "justice" and saying the owner needs to be held accountable for actions....its gone to far.
people keep demanding an answer that has been already given... Rufus is alive according to his owner.
Its done.
Just because he didn't end up where "you" wanted is no reason to keep dragging this out.
Its over.
[ Edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2014-05-18 16:52 ]
