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A AceExplorer Grand Member (8 years) Deep in the Jacksonville Flori-duh jungle. Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 2564	A AceExplorer Posted posted on Fri, Oct 28, 2016 5:58 AM On 2016-10-27 15:47, ErichTroudt wrote: Like someone mentioned earlier, a lot of people don't care about the past, so why come here? It provides nothing for them. Facebook has the things they wanna see, its easier to use and less drama. Other than history, TC provides nothing tiki people can't get faster and easier from facebook. TC needs to give people a reason to come back and entice new people to notice them. Erich, I have a different view, and I'll politely challenge a few of these assertions in an effort to cast some light on it from a slightly different perspective. What exactly does Facebook give people? The only thing I can think of is near-real-time and short-term social message and photo exchanges and fairly brief discussions. That's substantially it. There is little depth beyond that. Yes, it's easier, and TENDS to have less drama. When there is drama, it expires quickly and tends to fade away. Discussions don't often extend into the depth we see here on this system. Facebook is sort of single-dimensional and has high immediacy. Tiki Central has multi-dimensionality, high durability, and reasonable immediacy through email. Those are some big differences. Should Tiki Central give people a reason to come back? I don't think so -- that should happen entirely on its own. People either seek immediacy, or they seek more depth and more topics, which we - loosely - are here calling "history." So both platforms attract different audiences. Those who want it find it. To me, tiki is deep, so I gravitate to Tiki Central. The other stuff on Facebook tends to stay higher-level and more superficial, with some exceptions. For the record, I never go to Facebook to "find" or "look up" anything except for maybe event details, or to RSVP to something, and stuff like that. I think we should be clear about these details. To do otherwise is, to me, oversimplification and under-appreciation of both mediums on many levels. They both have good audiences, and both serve different purposes in different ways. I'm AceExplorer and I approve this message.

On 2016-10-27 15:47, ErichTroudt wrote:

Like someone mentioned earlier, a lot of people don't care about the past, so why come here? It provides nothing for them.

Facebook has the things they wanna see, its easier to use and less drama.

Other than history, TC provides nothing tiki people can't get faster and easier from facebook.

TC needs to give people a reason to come back and entice new people to notice them.

Erich, I have a different view, and I'll politely challenge a few of these assertions in an effort to cast some light on it from a slightly different perspective. What exactly does Facebook give people? The only thing I can think of is near-real-time and short-term social message and photo exchanges and fairly brief discussions. That's substantially it. There is little depth beyond that. Yes, it's easier, and TENDS to have less drama. When there is drama, it expires quickly and tends to fade away. Discussions don't often extend into the depth we see here on this system. Facebook is sort of single-dimensional and has high immediacy. Tiki Central has multi-dimensionality, high durability, and reasonable immediacy through email. Those are some big differences.

Should Tiki Central give people a reason to come back? I don't think so -- that should happen entirely on its own. People either seek immediacy, or they seek more depth and more topics, which we - loosely - are here calling "history." So both platforms attract different audiences. Those who want it find it. To me, tiki is deep, so I gravitate to Tiki Central. The other stuff on Facebook tends to stay higher-level and more superficial, with some exceptions. For the record, I never go to Facebook to "find" or "look up" anything except for maybe event details, or to RSVP to something, and stuff like that.

I think we should be clear about these details. To do otherwise is, to me, oversimplification and under-appreciation of both mediums on many levels. They both have good audiences, and both serve different purposes in different ways.

I'm AceExplorer and I approve this message.

Post #769760 by AceExplorer on Fri, Oct 28, 2016 5:58 AM