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A AceExplorer Grand Member (8 years) Deep in the Jacksonville Flori-duh jungle. Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 2564	A AceExplorer Posted posted on Fri, Oct 28, 2016 12:37 PM On 2016-10-28 11:08, ErichTroudt wrote: So since not a lot people currently posting here seem to agree with me that Tiki central needs to be responsible for bringing people back and some believe its solely up to the members here on TC... what needs to be done? What exactly is the plan and course of actions the members need to take? I'd love to hear details. Erich, I still think we don't need to worry about it and should leave it all in the hands of Hanford. Nobody "needs to be brought back." They either get it, or they don't get it. And if they are happy with Facebook, why worry about them? I do wonder who these folks are, by the way. I have read a number of times here about "the people who are gone," but who are they and what are we missing from them? Can we get more specific about the vacuum which they have left after their departure? How does their departure make TC stink? I really wonder if the issues you are concerned about are just the physical TC software itself, or is it the people who have left? You have talked about both of these, and they are really beyond our control on this free system. There will always be those who are not satisfied. These last 20 or so messages in this thread, I think, have made it clear to me that those making the fuss really need to start supporting their assertions. Compared to Facebook, Erich, I'm wondering if you see much good here, or is it all dependent on getting new software and having other people come back to TC? Do all the current posters (like me) really stink this place up? I'd like to know, because Tiki Central has been a lot more civilized and pleasant this year, thanks to moderator efforts. Personally, I get better use and more information out of Tiki Central than I do from ANY Facebook thread. So I think we're being subjected to a somewhat skewed and unrealistic point of view. People who don't like Tiki Central are free to remain on Facebook alone if this place somehow just isn't right. But they should promise to stay away the next time they want to do some research on tiki cocktails, or whatever. :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I hope nothing I just wrote came across harsh. It's not easy to write this sort of stuff and ensure that the hoped-for outcome came across.

On 2016-10-28 11:08, ErichTroudt wrote:

So since not a lot people currently posting here seem to agree with me that Tiki central needs to be responsible for bringing people back and some believe its solely up to the members here on TC... what needs to be done? What exactly is the plan and course of actions the members need to take? I'd love to hear details.

Erich, I still think we don't need to worry about it and should leave it all in the hands of Hanford. Nobody "needs to be brought back." They either get it, or they don't get it. And if they are happy with Facebook, why worry about them? I do wonder who these folks are, by the way. I have read a number of times here about "the people who are gone," but who are they and what are we missing from them? Can we get more specific about the vacuum which they have left after their departure? How does their departure make TC stink? I really wonder if the issues you are concerned about are just the physical TC software itself, or is it the people who have left? You have talked about both of these, and they are really beyond our control on this free system.

There will always be those who are not satisfied. These last 20 or so messages in this thread, I think, have made it clear to me that those making the fuss really need to start supporting their assertions. Compared to Facebook, Erich, I'm wondering if you see much good here, or is it all dependent on getting new software and having other people come back to TC? Do all the current posters (like me) really stink this place up? I'd like to know, because Tiki Central has been a lot more civilized and pleasant this year, thanks to moderator efforts. Personally, I get better use and more information out of Tiki Central than I do from ANY Facebook thread. So I think we're being subjected to a somewhat skewed and unrealistic point of view. People who don't like Tiki Central are free to remain on Facebook alone if this place somehow just isn't right. But they should promise to stay away the next time they want to do some research on tiki cocktails, or whatever. :)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I hope nothing I just wrote came across harsh. It's not easy to write this sort of stuff and ensure that the hoped-for outcome came across.

Post #769784 by AceExplorer on Fri, Oct 28, 2016 12:37 PM