Triple Old Fashioned? - Tiki Drinks and Food

A AceExplorer Grand Member (8 years) Deep in the Jacksonville Flori-duh jungle. Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 2564	A AceExplorer Posted posted on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 6:51 AM On 2017-08-16 06:31, swizzle wrote: Well to me you definitely seem to come across as defending it. Who in hell orders a double of ANYTHING besides a nip of spirits??? I will debate you a bit on this. The bartender makes the choice of glassware based on drink volume. This must take into account the ice cubes and how many (or how few) are used when the drink is made. From the beginning in this thread I have been careful to include references to drink volume in my comments. A Mai Tai is NOT required to be served in a single or double glass, but in an appropriate glass. It is about drink volume. I have to make this decision time and time again when serving various cocktails in coupe glasses or in Nick & Nora glasses. I must know in advance what volume to expect after my shaking, and then well in advance I choose an appropriately-sized glass before I even build the drink in front of you. If I overestimate and use too large of a glass, the penalty to the recipient or customer could be that a bartender adds too much ice, or too much mixer, as a filler which then would dilute the drink. (I work hard not to ever allow an over-diluted drink to be made, I have better ways of fixing if I run into a problem or make a mistake.) I work hard and have learned to avoid this, and I've become pretty dang good at it. We all eventually come to learn that there is a skill and knowledge element involved in making drinks. At some point it is beyond simply reading a recipe and mixing stuff. Mixing and choosing glassware is something you come to learn with time and experience. And by writing this out I'm trying to share the path I have been on. I hope you will see this as such, just some friendly sharing of my experience and take as a result of my experience. If you were to order a double Mai Tai from me, you have to first insist, and then you would get it in an appropriate glass along with a polite warning about dilution if you were to drink it too slowly. If you were to order a single shot of something neat from me, you would get an appropriate glass. Even more so if you were to order a double shot.

On 2017-08-16 06:31, swizzle wrote:
Well to me you definitely seem to come across as defending it. Who in hell orders a double of ANYTHING besides a nip of spirits???

I will debate you a bit on this. The bartender makes the choice of glassware based on drink volume. This must take into account the ice cubes and how many (or how few) are used when the drink is made. From the beginning in this thread I have been careful to include references to drink volume in my comments. A Mai Tai is NOT required to be served in a single or double glass, but in an appropriate glass. It is about drink volume. I have to make this decision time and time again when serving various cocktails in coupe glasses or in Nick & Nora glasses. I must know in advance what volume to expect after my shaking, and then well in advance I choose an appropriately-sized glass before I even build the drink in front of you. If I overestimate and use too large of a glass, the penalty to the recipient or customer could be that a bartender adds too much ice, or too much mixer, as a filler which then would dilute the drink. (I work hard not to ever allow an over-diluted drink to be made, I have better ways of fixing if I run into a problem or make a mistake.) I work hard and have learned to avoid this, and I've become pretty dang good at it. We all eventually come to learn that there is a skill and knowledge element involved in making drinks. At some point it is beyond simply reading a recipe and mixing stuff. Mixing and choosing glassware is something you come to learn with time and experience. And by writing this out I'm trying to share the path I have been on. I hope you will see this as such, just some friendly sharing of my experience and take as a result of my experience.

If you were to order a double Mai Tai from me, you have to first insist, and then you would get it in an appropriate glass along with a polite warning about dilution if you were to drink it too slowly.

If you were to order a single shot of something neat from me, you would get an appropriate glass. Even more so if you were to order a double shot.

Post #778920 by AceExplorer on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 6:51 AM