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Trader Vic's Downtown Los Angeles
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:54 AM
Apr 30, 2008 08:00 ET Trader Vic's |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 1:04 PM
Count me in; LA needs a Trader Vic's desperately. (I just hope it doesn't look like Las Vegas' nasty Vic's.) |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 1:24 PM
What's the over/under on the number of months before we see a thread bemoaning the sparse and generic decor, inept bartending staff and douchebaggy clientelle at the LA TV's? |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 1:50 PM
I'd think that would start any second now. I think it may actually have started but it's buried in other threads. I was hoping that maybe ground would be broken before someone started a thread but here we are. The Trader Vic's Lounge in the Beverly Hilton is still there if you need a Trader Vic's drink. I know it's a drag to have to drive 16 miles but it's there. :) |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 2:35 PM
There was an item on the news yesterday about the development at the Beverly Hills Trader Vic's. The locals are trying to stop it but the city council was not being very receptive. Someone accused them of being in the developer's pocket, to which the council took great exception. The locals promise a balot initiative to stop it. It looks like there will be lots more drama there. [ Edited by: PiPhiRho 2008-04-30 14:35 ] |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 2:38 PM
It's funny -- Soon after the TV in BH closed I was reading a newspaper story about LA Live and my first thought was, That would be a good location for a new Trader Vic's. Now will it be a gentrified and slicked up, "ultra-lounge"? Of course it will. Why bother questioning it? |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 5:07 PM
Maybe we should give them a chance. This is from their press release on the site at the link above. Sounds encouraging anyway. Apr 30, 2008 08:00 ET Pictured is Trader Vic's Dallas, which is representative of the style of decor that Trader Vic's LA will have. For more information, visit http://www.tradervicsla.com or contact John Valencia at [email protected]. Trader Vic's |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 5:10 PM
The site says it will resembe Trader Vic's in Dallas... Is that awful? (I'm guessing yes) Look, a mug [ Edited by: nichols 2008-04-30 17:11 ] |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 5:20 PM
WooHoo!! SoccerTiki and I can't wait to check it out. [ Edited by: WooHooWahine 2008-04-30 17:21 ] |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 7:29 PM
Well if I looks like this Mr and I are going for sure! Trader Vic's Dallas. Screen shots so forgive the quality. MrsHoptiki |
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Bora Boris
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM
Then you have guessed wrong! Here, take a look at the Dallas Trader Vic's while you recover from your bad guess. |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 8:26 PM
Who's doing the interiors??? |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 8:43 PM
In general, Dallas is a soulless, generic wasteland. It is the bland ultralounge of cities. HOWEVER, the Dallas Trader Vic's is a masterpiece of high-end tiki aesthetic. That is a bit of an accident, as the TV's is essentially a renovation of the original location, which was basically sealed up in tact for 20 years. However, the developers deserve a ton of credit for preserving the old look instead of gutting the place and going trendy. As a result, my non-tikiphile Dallas friends that I have introduced to the place absolutely love it. It's totally unique, in terms of actually having an authentic atmosphere, in the Dallas landscape. |
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Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00 PM
Lets cross our fingers, please. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
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Thu, May 1, 2008 12:43 AM
Man, that Dallas TV looks Awesome...I hope the one in LA follows suit...we'd finally have a great Tiki restaurant again. |
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Fri, May 2, 2008 3:04 AM
Oh BABY! I found out about this just now on angelenic.com. Happy Days! Since I live Downtown, I will spending a lot of time there if they do it right. There's already a soulless sports bar masquerading as a tiki bar Downtown (Point Moorea), and we don't need another one. Yeah! No more taking the subway up to Tiki Ti! Supposed to be opening in a year or so, I am already crossing off the days on a calendar. WHO WANTS A ZOMBIE!?? |
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Thu, May 15, 2008 3:20 PM
Bring it on! |
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Thu, May 15, 2008 3:54 PM
I hope this comes to fruition! It was a pretty scary place in the late 80's. With the Nokia Theatre, Staples Center and all the cool lofts they've been building, it's really cleaned up over the years. |
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Thu, May 15, 2008 5:19 PM
I was there last night for the Lakers' playoff game. The facade and lighting of the Noikia Center is amazing. Staples Center is an elite LA destination, so hopefully TV can ride its coat-tails until its own reputation is established. |
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Mon, May 19, 2008 11:09 AM
OK LA Trader Vic's, here is a You Tube of the Atlanta Trader Vic's entertainment. Hope you do the same. Good luck LA Trader Vic's. |
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Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:59 PM
An slight update on Trader Vic's Downtown LA (along with mug pic from Tiki Farm) http://eatingla.blogspot.com/2008/08/whats-in-store-for-restaurants-western.html "What's in store for restaurants: The Western Foodservice Expo |
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Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:28 PM
Nichols & Lynxweiler? |
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Mon, Aug 25, 2008 9:28 AM
As much as I had love for the TVBH location, not only because of the hospitality, the look, the ambience, and most of all the HISTORY that the BH location emanated, I'm completely over the whole TV version 2.0 Corporate attitude. For the drinks, I'll stick with Tiki Ti...The TV Mai Tais are good, but that is ALL they have going for themselves. At the Ti, I can always spin the wheel, and come out with a winning hand everytime... |
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Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:11 PM
I too was feeling burned Tom, the new Trader Vic's is not what Vic had in mind. Now John has his chance to either become a Pep Boy's or do a new Trader Vic's right. (Manny, Mo and Jack) A little escapism would be nice. Some thing like the Blue Bayou Room at Disneyland? Sven Koch tells me that John Valencia is using the same architect that did the Dallas Trader Vic's. Eli Hedley? Where are you when we need you? Wait a minute, of course! Bamboo Ben! Eli's grandson! Get him to help you guys out. (Benny, if you read this, please give John some of the items from BVTV?) |
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 12:29 AM
I just hope its not as generic as Trader Vic's Palo Alto. Yes folks there is a Trader Vic's Palo Alto which sadly is in a great building and greets you with a large outdoor Tiki but then delivers an ugly Asian fusion decor. |
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 1:02 AM
Are we dissing the new TV before it even opens? Also, lets get real. The land under TVBH was bought as part of a multi-million dollar real estate deal and the lease was terminated. TV is paying a handsome fee to lease the space in LA Live. TV will be in a high-rise. It will not have any open air space. However, none of the above prevents it from being a great Tiki bar. |
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 2:35 PM
No, not dissing LA Trader Vic's Christiki, just hoping this one is done right. The LA Trader Vic's is not inside of a high rise but on the street level of one, with a 600 foot patio. [ Edited by: Ojaitimo 2008-08-26 14:37 ] |
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 2:59 PM
Well...one good thing is that at least the new owners have at least a passing interest in Tiki, or at least are willing to learn...they were at the Tikiyaki Orchestra show at Kona in July. I didn't talk to them myself, but someone pointed them out to me. So let's hope for the best and give them as much support as possible. |
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:40 PM
Nor am I "dissing" the newly planned Vic's. I just brought up some relevant facts regarding the Corpwhoration in general. From the disaster at Beverly Hills Hilton and the afterthought-makeshift lemonade-type stand "Vics 2.0 poolside", to the Las Vegas Vic's Ultra Lounge...Don't forget the recent and premature closing of the Bellevue location in WA, which was only 2 years old. I don't understand why the Corporation leases space instead of investing and buying the land they are to build on? I was always under the impression that longevity in/on the same property was a key to stability and success? Hell, It's worked for Norms and Dennys, even most McDonald's franchises! Leap frogging locations just baffles me!(open one,close one.change city.open one, close one...etc,etc...) I truly wish the new investors well, as L.A. could stand to use a little more escapism from the hustle n' bustle of "white party" styled clubs with intelligent lighting and mirror/brass settings. I hope they can find a middleground that could appeal to both the tradertionalist and to the general public, so they can be all the more successful.
Does this mean TVcorporate should redesign a Trader Vic's in the style of "Fridays" with bicycles hanging off the walls and old license plates, just because TV Corporate thinks it is the next hot ticket? The restaurant was an image Mr. Bergeron invisioned with a South Pacific theme, completely abandoning the "Hinky Dinks" log cabin/country exterior theme. Victor can be quoted directly from the corporate website- "Its South Pacific theme, intrigues everyone. You think of beaches and moonlight and pretty girls. It is complete escape." -Victor Bergeron |
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Wed, Aug 27, 2008 8:17 AM
Does anyone know if most Trader Vic's are company run, or franchised, or a combination of the two? I know for sure the Vegas one is a franchise. |
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Wed, Aug 27, 2008 8:52 AM
"Does anyone know if most Trader Vic's are company run, or franchised, or a combination of the two? I know for sure the Vegas one is a franchise. " All are Franchise locations, but the two in the Bay area are Corp owned. [ Edited by: TraderJohn 2008-08-27 09:01 ] [ Edited by: TraderJohn 2008-08-27 09:01 ] |
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Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:12 PM
Land in LA is far too expensive to buy for a restaurant. Only a developer can get loans, capital funds, etc. to pony up the multi-millions necessary. I think that is why restaurants are (in the words of Humuhumu, I think in reference to Venus) built to be "disposable." I, too, hope that TV stays true to the South Pacific idea, although neither Hawaii nor Tahiti have a monopoly on beaches, moonlight and pretty girls. |
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Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:08 PM
Here is more good news. L.A. LIVE’S LAST AVAILABLE SPACE Legendary Local Restaurant Joins Newly-Signed ROCK ‘N FISH and Other Well-Known Favorites within New Downtown Los Angeles Sports, Residential & Entertainment District Set for December Grand Opening LOS ANGELES (September 4, 2008) – Trader Vic’s at L.A. LIVE, the newest addition to the legendary Polynesian restaurant chain, has leased the final space within L.A. LIVE, the four million square foot downtown Los Angeles sports, residential and entertainment district across from STAPLES Center, it was announced by AEG, developers of L.A. LIVE. Trader Vic's at L.A. LIVE is slated to open its doors to the public in 2009, according to The Valencia Group, the restaurant management group that owns the legendary destination. Trader Vic’s at L.A. LIVE will become part of an exciting mix of some of the most popular restaurants coming to downtown Los Angeles beginning this December, making L.A. LIVE the true dining capital of the sports and entertainment capital of the world. Other restaurants opening at L.A. LIVE include ESPN Zone, The Farm of Beverly Hills, Fleming’s Steak House and Wine Bar, Katsuya, Lawry’s Carvery, New Zealand Natural Ice Cream, Rosa Mexicano, Starbucks, Wolfgang Puck Bar and Grill, Yard House, and the newly-signed ROCK Also located at L.A. LIVE will be the third location of the popular Lucky Strike Bowling Lanes and Lounge, a fourteen-screen Regal Cineplex and broadcast facilities for ESPN. In early 2010, L.A. LIVE will include a 54-story, 1001-room convention “headquarters” destination, featuring The Ritz Carlton and JW Marriott hotels and 224 luxury condominiums, which will be known as The Ritz Carlton Residences at L.A. LIVE. The $2.5 billion L.A. LIVE development will also be the home of “more music per square foot” than any other location in the United States when the 2,300-capacity Club NOKIA L.A. LIVE, world-famous Conga Room, and one-of-a-kind Grammy Museum join the recently opened 7,100-seat NOKIA Theatre L.A. LIVE and the adjacent STAPLES Center within the development. This will truly create a one-of-a-kind live “content campus,” becoming the heart and soul of the nation’s entertainment capital. “With its signature menu and style, Trader Vic’s at L.A. LIVE is the perfect complement to the L.A. LIVE campus,” said Lisa Herzlich, senior vice president & managing director, L.A. LIVE. “ L.A. LIVE’s exciting list of tenants is now complete and we are on our way to becoming the newest destination for unique dining and entertainment experiences in Los Angeles .” ---more--- L.A. LIVE Final Tenants Page 2 Trader Vic’s at L.A. LIVE's menu will include the Island-Asian fusion dishes, famous tiki bar drinks and classic tiki decor and atmosphere that has helped establish the Trader Vic's brand around the world. Most nights of the week, Trader Vic's at L.A. LIVE will host “The Valencia Group’s vision for their restaurant honors our storied past,” said Sven Koch, senior vice president for business development and global operations for Trader Vic’s. “We are confident “As Los Angeles natives, we’re extremely excited to be part of the L.A. LIVE project which we believe is a major key to the success of the Downtown revitalization,” said John Valencia, a native Angeleno and senior partner of the Valencia Group. “We are looking forward to a long and prosperous relationship as we prepare for our grand opening in early “Beginning this December, L.A. LIVE will be where people in Los Angeles will come for the best in live entertainment and the best in dining and ROCK’N FISH fits right in,” said Herzlich. “The great menu and vibrant, high energy scene that they are already known for in the South Bay is the perfect fit for L.A. LIVE.” "I've been offered many opportunities to grow the ROCK’N FISH concept, but it wasn't until AEG approached me that I was able to fully embrace an expansion," says Michael Zislis, entrepreneur-restaurateur-hotelier, who first captured the essence of Southern California with his original ROCK’N FISH restaurant in Manhattan Beach, followed by SHADE HOTEL and, most recently, his MUCHO ULTIMA MEXICANA, which opened last year. “It is really exciting to bring our vibrant beach lifestyle downtown at L.A. LIVE!" For more information on L.A. LIVE, visit: http://www.lalive.com For more information on AEG, visit http://www.aegworldwide.com ABOUT THE VALENCIA GROUP #MEDIA AEG/L.A. LIVE – Michael Roth Phone: 213-742-7155 – e-mail: [email protected] L.A. LIVE – Melissa Triviño Phone: 323.202.1894 – email: [email protected] Trader Vic’s – Lisa Elia Phone: 310-479-0216 – e-mail: [email protected] Rock ‘N Fish – Alexia Haidos Phone: 310. 450.6890 – e-mail: [email protected] |
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Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:23 PM
Trader Vic’s at L.A. LIVE's menu will include the Island-Asian fusion dishes, famous tiki bar drinks and classic tiki decor and atmosphere that has helped establish the Trader Vic's brand around the world. Most nights of the week, Trader Vic's at L.A. LIVE will host Wow...Polynesian Dancers - Cool...Bring on the FIRE !!!!! We need something that resembles the Mai Kai out here. |
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Wed, Oct 1, 2008 11:53 PM
I was just told about this whole thing by Joe Banks and we were floored. I'm really looking forward to this after being heart broken about the one closing in Beverly Hills. Give me some Bongo Bongo soup please! |
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Wed, Oct 8, 2008 11:27 AM
Checked out LA Live yesterday and the new location. Trader Vic's will be next to the Nokia Theater and the Grammy museum with a skyline view. |
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Wed, Oct 8, 2008 4:36 PM
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Fri, Oct 24, 2008 5:38 PM
More info and video about the New Trader Vic's LA Location: http://www.angelenic.com/5972/la-live-tower-under-budget-on-schedule-for-2010/ AND VOTE FOR TRADER VIC'S !! [ Edited by: TraderJohn 2008-10-25 09:11 ] |
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Fri, Oct 24, 2008 6:21 PM
The whole venue itself doesn't look that "inviting", mega projects like that are not my thing. But having met the guy in charge of the new Vic's at the Tiki Ti last Wednesday was very encouraging. Anyone who goes (and has been going) to the Tiki Ti has good taste in my book. |
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Fri, Oct 24, 2008 9:11 PM
I met the owner of the new LA franchise at the Tiki Crawl last weekend. He was really interested to hear what I liked and didn't like in various Trader Vic's restaurants. I made it clear that Tokyo, Atlanta, Munich, and to a lesser degree Dallas and London were the templates for greatness, and that the vibe in places like the recently closed San Francisco and (of course) Las Vegas are not quite as successful. He was asking me detailed questions about why most tikiphiles hold these opinions, and he seems like he wants to get it right. Time will tell. |
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Mon, Oct 27, 2008 8:01 PM
Go to http://www.angelenic.com/5972/la-live-tower-under-budget-on-schedule-for-2010/#more-5972 And Vote, Show your support for Trader Vic's LA |
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Tue, Oct 28, 2008 10:06 PM
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Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:59 PM
WooHoo Trader John!!! Trader Vic's gets my vote :) |
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Mon, Nov 17, 2008 8:32 AM
Check out the Update Website |
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Mon, Nov 17, 2008 9:01 AM
I was looking at TV LA's website yesterday and it looks promising. I am looking forward to going there on our tiki road trip next summer. Also, can't wait to get one of the special mugs they will be offering. |
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Mon, Nov 17, 2008 9:15 AM
This indeed looks promising. I must agree with BBT that the megalapoplectic setting isn't exactly a relaxing destination, but, with some architectural insulation from the outside world, Dallas-quality decor, and what looks like a very enjoyable drink menu, TV's may be on the way back in LA in a stylish way. Let's hope, and Mahalo Trader John for the update... We're putting the oars in the canoe for your opening. SOK "Don't let it be forgot, [ Edited by: Son-of-Kelbo 2008-11-17 09:15 ] |
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Mon, Nov 17, 2008 10:34 AM
$14 mai tais! |