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08/04/2008
This is a great thread in Travelling no less. Didn't see a link to one of the best mug sites and you can't talk http://www.porcelanaspavon.com/index.htm |
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Zeta
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08/14/2008
teaKEY: Why don't you show us some pictures of your mugs? The Spanish mugs in my collection are vintage made by the original manufacturers 40 years before Porcelanas Pavon. Pavon did not created those mugs and that is why I don't refer to them. They make (not cheap) reproductions of SOME of the original mugs. There is no comparison between the quality of vintage and reproductions. Aloha all Z |
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hiltiki
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08/14/2008
Zeta, I have to agree with you on the fact that old tiki mugs are made much nicer than the new ones. I try to collect vintage tiki mugs. One thing I like the best besides the design factor is the fact that the old mugs in general with the exception of some of the coffee grog mugs are real thin and lighter in weight and it is easier to hold and drink from. I have some new mugs but usually I don't serve drinks in them, they are pretty thick, I wonder why? |
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09/04/2008
Um, Sperm Whale, as Zeta said before, I live in Spain and even for me it's not easy to get spanish mugs, I mean THESE mugs Z is showing... They are really old and obscure, and they're not being made since long ago. But you always can get the Porcelanas Pavón reproductions. And Zeta, it's true, you can get them at flea markets... if you're very lucky! |
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Zeta
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10/16/2008
Aloha caballeros! The main difference between vintage American and Spanish mugs is that American mugs are made of clay, that's why they are lighter, Spanish mugs are made of porcelain and that's what make them heavier. Z |
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hiltiki
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10/19/2008
Zeta, thanks for the reply your collection is very interesting to me. Could you put some more pictures of mugs for us. These mugs from Spain have some of the most interesting designs. |
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Zeta
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11/03/2008
From my collection: |
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hiltiki
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11/03/2008
Let's see the one on the right is vintage? |
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cheekytiki
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11/04/2008
The oldest is definately the one on the right, it has more grey hairs :) |
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Zeta
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11/04/2008
¡Correcto! |
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Zeta
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03/19/2009
Somewhere in Spain... |
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Zeta
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06/08/2009
From my humble collection... [ Edited by: Zeta 2009-06-08 12:01 ] |
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Zeta
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01/27/2010
From an uncharted tiki bar somewhere in Iberia... |
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Zeta
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02/09/2010
Enchanted woods... |
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Zeta
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03/25/2010
Signed Aku Aku |
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Zeta
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03/27/2010
Is this Tiki? Gracias por participar... |
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Zeta
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05/13/2010
I love this picture. I love that place. It's just a fried chicken joint for northern European tourists in the mediterranean coast of Spain, but with a name like that, Paradise comes to my mind. |
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Zeta
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05/17/2010
I have never been there and I have no pictures or physical evidence of this place but I found it "surfing" the web. Maybe I will check it out using google maps street level function... Naufrago, Bastardo Saffrin, any euro out there, go check it out please! Take pictures! Kon-tiki restaurant |
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Trader Magnus
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05/18/2010
Here's a review of Kon-Tiki from TripAdvisor, doesn't sound too promising. No pictures or mention of tiki... "Pictures show food like many other restaurants do (Chips, salad, meat, pizza, paella etc.) Weighters try to get you inside. I was very hungry so I ate almost half of what I got. Mixed grill (sauceges, pinchito's, ..) I tasted all, only the chips were OK (OK I'm Dutch but this food was very bad). The meat seemed to be very old. My daughter's pizza was like cardboard. Service is very slow even tough many people walk round and about. |
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Zeta
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05/18/2010
Gracias Trader Magnus! It sounds great! Now we need someone to go there and give us a first hand impression. Graphics are vital too! I would forgive their cooking skills for a cool logo or something like that. I never visit a (kon) tiki joint for the food, anyway. I would eat glass soup if the decor is cool! |
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Zeta
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06/12/2010
Expedicion Ant-Tiki o La familia Milenios descubre America Bertil Almqvist (29 August 1902 Solna — 16 May 1972 Stockholm), nicknamed Bertila, was a Swedish author and illustrator famous for his World War II-era En svensk tiger propaganda poster (which was one of the most recognized symbols in Sweden around this time period) as well as his children's book series, later comic, Barna Hedenhös (The Stone Age Kids Discover America, The Stones Explore Britain). Almqvist studied literature in Stockholm and Uppsala from 1924 until 1925. |
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Zeta
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07/13/2010
Good reading material while traveling trough Spain... |
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Zeta
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07/16/2010
Kontiki Playa |
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Mister Naufrago
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07/23/2010
El Corte Inglés is Spain’s largest department store chain. It´s a strange feeling… |
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Zeta
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08/12/2010
Hey Sr. Castaway! I bet the publicists where inspired by your blog! Here's a picture of a true tiki pioneer artist. |
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Zeta
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08/30/2010
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bigbrotiki
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08/31/2010
Cool! How did that tie in to the building -a hotel, I assume? |
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Trader Magnus
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09/19/2010
Unfortunately this bar was closed when I discovered it, so I don't really know what's inside... it's located at C/ Francisco Cubells 52 in Valencia harbour area. |
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Trader Magnus
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09/19/2010
Found a tiki in the Desigual store at Maremagnum shopping mall, Barcelona. |
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Mister Naufrago
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09/20/2010
You are right Bigbro. |
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Mister Naufrago
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10/04/2010
Found this "no daisy earrings" version of this bowl, it seems to be a more faithful representation of the original Hawaiian bracelet posted by Bigbro. I`m curious about that color image. Bigbro, would you be so kind...? |
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bigbrotiki
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10/09/2010
Mister N., that is actually the same bowl, with the difference that mine is embellished with a more detailed paint job. That's because it is a sample sent to me by P. Pavon back when I was ordering my line of Kon-Id mugs from them, and they decided to make it "extra pretty" :) |
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Mister Naufrago
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10/12/2010
Actually that bowl was manufactured by Arte 4 and I've never seen a similar PP one. |
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bigbrotiki
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10/12/2010
Well, they -ahem!- "shared" a lot of the molds, didn't they? :D |
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Mister Naufrago
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10/13/2010
It´s all in the mold? The answer is simpler than the question. Some things doesn't fit the mold. |
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Zeta
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11/01/2010
Aloha amigos, I have the honor of having the creator of the Original Spanish Tiki Style as a personal friend. He is 84 and a real gent. He would be happy to answer to any questions about his creations. |
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bigbrotiki
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11/02/2010
Thank you Zeta, great to have that opportunity! If he can remember: Why did he design the heads on this bracelet bowl like he did, different from the photo of the original ? |
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Zeta
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11/03/2010
Thank you Bigbrotiki, your question will be replied by El Maestro soon. Everyone else: Gracias. |
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Zeta
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11/03/2010
Bigbrotiki or anyone else of the tiki wise men, I have a question for you: Who introduced receptacles for dry ice in tiki mugs? |
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bigbrotiki
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11/03/2010
Well, yes and no: Being that Spanish Tiki Culture had a time difference of several years to American Tiki, it seems likely that the use of dry ice in volcano bowls began in the U.S., and then probably was brought over by the proprietor of the House of Ming. But the elaborate way dry ice pockets were included into the design of the Spanish mugs is unmatched by any American Tiki vessels, in fact I cannot think of one that had that specific feature. |
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Zeta
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11/08/2010
What about the volcano bowl? Here's another big tiki ethnological question: Have you seen the long straws in a tiki bar outside of Iberia? |
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Zeta
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11/09/2010
El Maestro answered: "Pasemos a la parte técnica. Me preguntas por que no hice las mascaras pequeñitas que lleva esa vasija . En primer lugar he procurado basarme en algo que tuviera sabor Polinesio , pero no hacerlo exacto, esto es, me documentaba, pero luego tenia que aplicarlo a la esclavitud que te impone la materia , en este caso la porcelana. Esas caretitas me resultaban un poco desagradables y al estar sobresalientes de la vasija hubiera tenido que hacer unos moldes por separado para componer toda la pieza lo que aumentaría el precio de la misma y las roturas en el manejo de servir lavarlas etc. hubiera supuesto que no me la comprarían. Al cliente le tenias que dar un producto que fuera bonito y funcional. Podría haber realizado otro tipo de vasijas más arriesgadas, más vistosas pero a la hora de vender todo el mundo miraba que no se rompieran, o lo menos posible . No se si me he explicado bien referente a este punto concreto." Someone please translate. Next question? |
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Hakalugi
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11/09/2010
Here's a rough one. "Now comes the technical part. I wonder why I did that bears tiny masks that pot. First I tried to build on something that had a Polynesian flavor, but not make it accurate, this is, I documented, but then had to apply to slavery requires you matter in this case the porcelain. caretitas These were a bit unpleasant to me to be outstanding and the vessel would have had to make separate molds to compose the whole piece which would increase the price of the same and breaks in the management of used washing etc. would have guessed that I would buy. When he had to give customers a product that was attractive and functional. I could have made any other vessels riskier, more showy but when everyone looked to sell them from breaking, or at least possible. Do not know if I have explained well regarding this particular point. " |
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Zeta
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11/09/2010
Hakalugi, So, basically what El Maestro said is: Form follows function. Practicality. To sell more. To use less molds for each mug... I told him about tikicentral.com sent him a link to this very thread. I am not sure if he is bilingual though. He also told me that he enjoys answering this questions, a good memory excersise that bring back vivid memories of the past. Because he loved that exotic 40 year period of his life. Next Question please. |
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bigbrotiki
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11/09/2010
Ha, funny babblefish translation. But why ask questions if we can't read the answers? And the solid durability of the Spanish mugs is a hallmark of their design for sure. Here is another question. When he started out, was he aware of any of the American Tiki temples, like perhaps the Trader Vic's that had made it to Europe? |
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Zeta
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12/02/2010
Bigbro- not when he started... all he had was some mugs and menus. Next question? TIKI SPAIN TRAVEL ADVICE: If you are visiting Islas Canarias, you might want to check hotel: Riu Waikiki. http://www.tripadvisor.es/ShowUserReviews-g562819-d237082-r6546122-Riu_Waikiki-Playa_del_Ingles_Grand_Canary_Canary_Islands.html |
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Zeta
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12/14/2010
Now a really nice and super rare vintage tiki mug with TWO side pockets for double carbonic smoke curtain effect! For trade or sell... TCer's first. eBay next... Ships from the U.S. and A. North of the Right Coast near Beantown, Boston. PM me if interested. Serious collectors only. |
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Zeta
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12/21/2010
Beautiful Marina (photo doesn't do justice to it) by the founding father of Spanish Tiki Style... |