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check this out...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TikiQueen/

and what's up with this site?
http://www.tikifestival.com

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SES posted on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 2:13 AM

[ Edited by: susane on 2004-01-20 06:32 ]

On 2003-09-25 00:48, Futura Girl wrote:
and what's up with this site?
http://www.tikifestival.com

Looks like the Tiki Lifestyle has been trademarked. Can't a guy wear Tiki Clothing™ at a Tiki Festival™, drinking Tiki Rum™ without paying Tiki Royalties™?

M

Q: What is a tiki queen?

A: Cross dressing tiki!

S
SES posted on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 7:13 AM

On 2003-09-25 03:08, johnnievelour wrote:
Looks like the Tiki Lifestyle has been trademarked. Can't a guy wear Tiki Clothing™ at a Tiki Festival™, drinking Tiki Rum™ without paying Tiki Royalties™?

type tiki into this box and see how many come up!
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=search&state=f3hdsa.1.1

[ Edited by: susane on 2004-01-20 06:32 ]

Hey! We are the authorities on all things Tiki on this planet we call Earth. (I'm putting a hit out on her!)

My gaaahd!

Look at all the crap they've trademarked!!

Tiki Kids™, Tiki Dolls™, Tiki Heads™, Tiki Bird™, Tiki Toy™, Tiki Toons™
Tiki Game™, Tiki Slots™ and Tiki Blaster™, Tiki Outpost™, Tiki Grill™, Tiki Tribe™, Tiki Stuff™, Tiki Fashion™,
Tiki City™, Tiki Mall™, Tiki Clothing™, Tiki Festival™, Tiki Lifestyle™, Tikini™,
Tiki Queen™, Tiki Restaurant™, Tiki Rum™, Tiki Slots™, Tiki Spirits™, Tiki Tunes™,
and Tikiville™

Can you trademark "tiki stuff"?"tiki lifestyle"? Why not "tiki bar"? I'm sure those b*stards tried to. Jimmy Buffet probably already owns it.

And Baxdog has (had) the original "tiki city" in his backyard! And Tiki King is married to "Tiki Queen" already! Vintage Girl already defines "Tiki fashion"! Do we need to hurry up and trademark "tiki carving"?"tiki statue"?"tiki fun"?"tiki drink"?"tiki sex"? -oops, scratch that last one.

But on a serious note, Hanford, do we (you) have protection for "Tiki Central" and "Tiki room"? Or might those freaks try to make us pay the above-mentioned "tiki royalties" for the right to exist in cyber-space?

The United States Trademark and Patent Office has great user friendly info. This page is most relevant to the questions raised by Formikahini:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/doc/basic/register.htm

Ok..here's what I found out (I called)...

Well, first I went to the Tiki Queen Yahoo Group. It lists and refers to "TikiQueen.com" at the bottom. So I went there. As you see on TikiQueen.com, it then refers to a company called "Tiki Media". It then lists a toll-free number at the bottom to a media group, which I called....

While on hold, they had Hawaiian music playing, and then on comes "Eric". I spoke with him and asked what Tiki Queen, Tiki Media and all the Tiki names listed on the Tiki Media site were all about. He said that they are a "holding company" and are attempting to work with different restaurants and nightclubs in order to put on various tiki related projects and products. Products?? He said that these products were under development. He was very vague, of course, not wanting to release any more info than needed. Hmmm....ok. So I repeated back to him for absolute clarification and I said "so, you are trying to develop interest in tiki through restaurants and (night)clubs to generate interest in your "product", which you say is "under development". He said "Yes, that's it".

Note, that if you type in any of the names on the TikiMedia.com website and add ".com" to it, it brings you right back to Tiki Media. I take it that he has registered all of these names for future sales of them to interested parties.

I asked him what their goal for this investment is. He said he hopes to bring out some of the 'closet tiki' people. I then asked him if he was into tiki, hawaiiana, etc., and he said "sure". I asked if he has gone out to ANY of the the tiki functions currently going on in Southern California (they are based near LAX). He said no. He's a closet tiki person himself. I asked him if he knows any carvers. He said no. When I mentioned Sven's name, it seemed to fly right over his head. The more I asked about tiki-related things the more I felt that he had no background knowledge whatsoever and was just jumping on the bandwagon.

Now, I work in marketing & media myself, and I don't think I quite agree with the approach they are taking to spearhead a project like this. Especially if he is "in the closet". Sheeesh.

He said that they(?) will probably have more info up on their site after January 2004. We'll see if this person finds us here. I didn't mention Tiki Central at all since I want to see if this guy can actually do research and find us here.

Now, maybe he's some marketing genius and will surprise us next year with something great....or maybe not. We'll see.

Just my 2 coconuts worth.

[ Edited by: sugarcaddydaddy on 2003-09-25 14:43 ]

I stil say "tiki hit list!"

(man, I hope they don't copyright 'Tiki Bong')

This sound like just another cyber-squatter hoping someone'll pay him for the rights to the domains he's registered. He's just gone a little further than most in trademarking his "products." His trademarks'll probably fall to anyone who's can show prior usage of any of the Tiki etc. trademarks. He may lose the rights to register the related domain names as well.

Much to my chagrin, I was looking through the list and saw TikiTrader listed as DEAD. I checked the info, and saw the name of the owner. I realized it was the same person i had recently bought an item from on ebay, which I have yet to receive. So BEWARE, TikiTrader is now doing business on ebay as HAWAIIANSTYLE55

hey Tiki Queen now has amambership of TWO! WAHOO!!

Regarding the "Tikifestival" site: someone sure has a lot of money to piss away as it ain't cheap tp register a trademark. I can think of more productive investments to put your money into. Hey, maybe he should contact that Neon Tiki Tribe guy who's always screaming:

http://www.neontikitribe.com/

^I can attest to the fact taht HAWAIIANSTYLE55 is a con artist. I bought a black velvet painting from the guy in July. He never sent it, and hasn't responded to emails since August. At that point he was claiming the delay was due to a computer problem. I had to go through my credit card company to get a refund.

G

is TM like copywriting? So....that means no one can use any of those phrases without paying them first? If it does dats a F'ed up thing to do.

You can trademark any name you want, but that doesn't mean the court will uphold your right to protection or compensation. To trademark a name that is enforceable it must be unique and not a commonly used name or description. I doubt the proprietary rights to a term like "tiki restaurant" could be successfully defended in court. In fact, the more we use the terms this person has trademarked to describe generic objects or activities that are not specific to a commercial activity, the less protection they have. Also, anyone can put a TM next to a term without actually having registered it.

Of course, I favor a hit on this person anyway -- just because their tiki groupTM is so obnoxious.

[ Edited by: Kailuageoff on 2003-09-25 13:00 ]

This media group apparently just added the "tm" to all the names. The names don't seem to be currently trademarked. They may run into some trouble with Mattel over the name "TikiBlaster(s)" since this is a current Mattel trademark, and we know that Mattel has more than enough money to run this guy/person/group down over the name.

The following is the current filings of names with tiki in it, either "dead" or "alive" (active/inactive).

Note, that you will see some names repeated. Because you can register a name within (I believe 40+) categories and classifications, you can use the same name but within it's own classification. ex.: WITCO is registered currently for a detergents company, a trucking company, a metal containers company and an organic surfactants company, all, of which would be in different business and usage classifications. This is why in registering a trademark (or sidemark) you should really consult with a specialist in the trademarking field. Details as to each classification and usage is explained on the USPTO website, if you care to look.

The list:

1 TIKI ADVENTURER-DEAD
2 TIKI THE ORIGINAL SINCE 1957-DEAD
3 TIKI ISLANDER TARR-DEAD
4 TIKI GO GO PERSONAL CHEF SERVICE-LIVE
5 BY TIKI-LIVE
6 TIKI TAMA-LIVE
7 TIKI BAR IS OPEN-LIVE
8 TIKI HAWAI-LIVE
9 TIKI'S GRILL & BAR-LIVE
10 TIKI ISLANDER-LIVE
11 TIKI TU-LIVE
12 TIKI THE ORIGINAL-LIVE
13 TIKI ADVENTURER-LIVE
14 TIKI-LIVE
15 TIKI ROOM-LIVE
16 FUNKYTIKI A V MEDIA LLC-LIVE
17 TIKI-LIVE
18 TOTALLY TIKI DINER-LIVE
19 TIKI GURLE-LIVE
20 TIKI TEASERS-LIVE
21 TIKITABLES-LIVE
22 TIKI-MON-LIVE
23 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
24 TIKI TRIBE-DEAD
25 TIKI TECH-LIVE
26 TIKI BLASTERS-LIVE
27 JACK WILLIE'S ORIGINAL TIKI BAR & GRILL-DEAD
28 TIKI TOM'S-LIVE
29 TIKI -1060-LIVE
30 TIKI BAMBOO STICK-LIVE
31 TIKI TOFFEE-LIVE
32 TIKI REEF CLUB-LIVE
33 TIKI ENTERTAINMENT "THE GODS OF ENTERTAINMENT"-LIVE
34 TIKI-LIVE
35 CHIKI TIKI-LIVE
36 SNEEKI TIKI-LIVE
37 FREAKY TIKI SURF SHACK-LIVE
38 TIKI TREASURE-LIVE
39 TIKI BAMBOO STICK-LIVE
40 KON TIKI ISLAND CAFE-LIVE
41 FREAKY TIKI-LIVE
42 TIKI JUNGLE-DEAD
43 TIKI ISLAND-LIVE
44 JACKPOT TIKI-LIVE
45 VOODOO TIKI TEQUILA-LIVE
46 VOODOO TIKI LA-LIVE
47 TIKI TORCH-LIVE
48 RIKI TIKI TAVI-LIVE
49 TIKI RUMBLE-LIVE
50 TIKI FARM-LIVE
51 TIKI GARDENS-LIVE
52 TIKIMAN-LIVE
53 GRAND TIKI ELDER-LIVE
54 TIKI BEACH-DEAD
55 TIKI TREASURES-DEAD
56 TIKI LOUNGE-LIVE
57 TIKI PUNCH-LIVE
58 BLUE TIKI-LIVE
59 TIKI GARDENS-LIVE
60 TIKI CLASSICS-LIVE
61 TIKI JIM'S-LIVE
62 BLUE TIKI-LIVE
63 TIKI TAN-LIVE
64 TIKI MAN -DEAD
65 TIKI PEEKYTOM-DEAD
66 TIKI JUNGLE-DEAD
67 TIKITRADER-DEAD
68 TIKI MAN-DEAD
69 TIKI TOES-LIVE
70 TIKI TOES-LIVE
71 TIKI TAKI-LIVE
72 TIKI TAKI-LIVE
73 TIKI TAKI-LIVE
74 TIKI BITES-DEAD
75 RIKI-TIKI-TAVI-DEAD
76 TIKI BITES-DEAD
77 KON TIKI-DEAD
78 MAUI TIKI LOA-DEAD
79 THE BROTHERS TIKI-LIVE
80 TIKI LIGHTER-LIVE
81 TIKI-DEAD
82 TIKI RAILBAR-DEAD
83 SUN TIKI CHALLENGE-LIVE
84 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
85 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
86 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
87 TIKI-LIVE
88 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
89 TIKI ISLAND-DEAD
90 TIKI-LIVE
91 TIKI BAR-DEAD
92 TIKI GOD-LIVE
93 TIKI-DEAD
94 TIKI TANGERINE LEMON LIME-DEAD
95 MAI TIKI-LIVE
96 TIA TIKI-DEAD
97 TIKI TRADING POST-DEAD
98 TIKI TRADING POST-DEAD
99 KON TIKI-DEAD
100 MOWAH THE GREAT TIKI-DEAD
101 DAR TIKI-DEAD
102 TREEMENDOUS TREES NEON TIKI TRIBE-DEAD
103 ZEKE TIKI-DEAD
104 TARA TIKI-DEAD
105 TIKI TOGS-DEAD
106 TIKI BALLS-DEAD
107 TIKI-TIE-DYE-DEAD
108 CONTIKI-DEAD
109 TIKI-DEAD
110 TIKI WATER SPORTS INC.-DEAD
111 TIKI TAP-DEAD
112 THE CALCO HAWAIIAN STURDY-WALL "TIKI" LINER-DEAD
113 THE COUNTRY "TIKI" TURTLE-DEAD
114 TIKI-DONS-DEAD
115 CHIN'S TIKI OUTI-DEAD
116 TIKI DE PARIS-DEAD
117 TIKIS-DEAD
118 TIKI-LIVE
119 TRI-TIKI-DEAD
120 TIKI KID-DEAD
121 TIKI-DEAD
122 TIKI TORCH-LIVE
123 TIKI-DEAD
124 TWIN TIKI INN-DEAD
125 TIKI TAI-DEAD
126 KON-TIKI-DEAD
127 TIKI-LIVE
128 TIKI N S E W-DEAD
129 TIKI FRUIT PUNCH-DEAD
130 KON TIKI-DEAD
131 TIKI DE PARIS-DEAD
132 TIKI-DEAD

Ok, I'm done the with subject. On to REAL tiki stuff.


SugarCaddyDaddy's SoCal Hoity Toity Schedule!

[ Edited by: SugarCaddyDaddy on 2003-09-25 13:25 ]

Trademarks are generally the brand name, logo, or symbol given to uniquely identify a consumable good. You can't just start up a list of words or phrases, label them as 'trademarked', and instantly own the rights. Words or other symbols have legal protection as soon as consumers see them as representing unique commercial sources.

Registering these tiki names as internet domains gives them the right market that domain name, but it doesn't necessarily create a trademark. For example, if a hot dog stand recently opened under the name "Trader Pup", that would effectively become their trademark. Even though I own the domain name Traderpup.com, I couldn't do much to stop them from using it, unless my website represented my business. And then it gets tricky, as different businesses can have the same trademarked name, if they are in very unrelated industries. Consumer recognition also plays a role in that, as there could be both a Trader Pup hotdog stand, as well as a Trader Pup pet grooming service, without trademark conflict. But I wouldn't be able to open the Coca Cola Pet Grooming Service, as Coca Cola is a highly recognized trademark. This is the part where lawyers get really important.

Registering your trademark gives you legal advantages, basically giving your trademark seniority over non-registered trademarks. It can be done on a state or federal level. But with registration fees upwards of $1000, and that is not including any legal fees you may incur, few small business bother with registering. Anyone can use 'TM' after their business name or logo, but only registered trademarks can use the 'R' in a circle.

Unless this media group has registered these "tiki" names, they are still pretty much up for grabs by other businesses.

Ok, I know, blah blah blah, but I just wanted to let you folks know your Tiki identities are pretty much on the safe side!

:tiki:

Whew

Then nobody else is gonna have much success at trying to Trademark "Formikahini" as a minor&fake celebrity/exotica musician/Ebay Hawaiian dress junkie/shameless flirt/mug collecter, because I myself pretty well have the already recognizable handle on that one. But some one COULD start up "Formikahini Home Mold Removal" or "Formikahini Leaf- Blowing Service" or "Formikahini Transmissions"?

I guess that's ok...

(What I want to steal, however, is from that list:
4 TIKI GO GO PERSONAL CHEF SERVICE-LIVE

D*MN! WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!! I'm so jealous!!)

M

On 2003-09-25 15:24, Formikahini wrote:
But some one COULD start up "Formikahini Home Mold Removal" or "Formikahini Leaf- Blowing Service" or "Formikahini Transmissions"?

(What I want to steal, however, is from that list:
4 TIKI GO GO PERSONAL CHEF SERVICE-LIVE

D*MN! WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!! I'm so jealous!!)

How about "Formikahini's Edible Flower Emporium" (FeFe)or Formikahini's Fabulous Fritters (F-cubed) :wink:


Be Careful... the tikies are watching

[ Edited by: MTKahuna on 2003-09-25 16:08 ]

it's not a registered trademark unless it has been filed with the trademark and patents office - and then the name will have a little circle with an "R" in it.
i don't know what they are trying to prove with that site with all the names? none of it would hold up in court unless it had been filed and/or was in common usage.

The mainstream-ization of tiki is upon us. If history tells us anything, shortly down the road, tiki will once again become incredibly tacky to the public (ex. the neon tiki tribe guy, thanks Atomic) and crawl back into the underground.

I'll be waiting.

G
GECKO posted on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 8:25 PM

OK, now I unda stand! mahaloz for clearing that up kewl tiki peeps.

SCD were you eva locked up??? you know a lot about the law stuff!! you know dem boys locked up read them law books inside out and Dam brah, you broke that buggah down!!!

S
SES posted on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 9:43 PM

[ Edited by: susane on 2004-01-20 06:33 ]

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On 2003-09-25 11:25, Tiki_Bong wrote:
I stil say "tiki hit list!"

Just give me a sec here while I screw my Tiki Suppressor onto the muzzle of my Tiki .308, then adjust the crosshairs of my Tiki Scope...

:)
em.

E

Oh, if anyone's wondering, the sound my Tiki .308 makes is "Ker-TIKI!!!".

Quieter if the Tiki Suppressor is used.

em.

SCD, you have Tiki Jungle as Dead, Dead meaning it's active or inactive? "Dead" could mean it's unavailable which would then make it "active" or..........."inactive" could mean it's "dead". So which one is it? Well to me it would mean it's MINE. MINE ALL MINE. Got the little TM right there on my site under the title. Now I'm thinkin' I might need to register it, dangit, cost a lotta clams.


[ Edited by: jungletrader on 2003-09-25 22:31 ]

[ Edited by: jungletrader on 2003-09-25 22:40 ]

This shows you for what it's worth,
someone has even trademarked the word "shit".

Somebody had registered "Tiki Water Sports?" Hmmm, think of the possibilities!

T

On 2003-09-26 12:47, Atomic Cocktail wrote:
Somebody had registered "Tiki Water Sports?" Hmmm, think of the possibilities!

Leaky tiki indeed!

M

Has Chocolate Salted Tiki Nuts been taken yet?

On 2003-09-25 09:49, Formikahini wrote:
But on a serious note, Hanford, do we (you) have protection for "Tiki Central" and "Tiki room"? Or might those freaks try to make us pay the above-mentioned "tiki royalties" for the right to exist in cyber-space?

Notice the TMs at the bottom of this page. And notice this:

http://www.tikicentral.com/about/index.htm

~Hanford

On 2003-09-25 09:49, Formikahini wrote:

Do we need to hurry up and trademark "tiki carving"?"tiki statue"?"tiki fun"?"tiki drink"?"tiki sex"? -oops, scratch that last one.

Tiki Slots™...heh heh...

Sorry, just having a Beavis moment.

Fire! Fire!

Speaking of FIRE... this just in - Donald Trump is currently seeking to trademark (you guessed it) "YOU'RE FIRED". What a pompous, self-aggrandizing little sparrow fart! Mr. Trump - YOU'RE...dismissed.

[ Edited by: Shipwreckjoey on 2004-03-25 22:41 ]

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