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Official Tiki Oasis 2012 thread for TO12
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:14 AM
Ehhh I kinda disagree, I think there's a way to balance both without making the entire event one-sided. Just like you said, you went to the room parties to get your kicks. On the other hand, me and my fella enjoyed all the daytime activities which were much more our speed and decided to get some sleep rather than go to the room parties. I like that there are options for everyone. Not all adults want to see boobs and butts shakin' around on stage in broad daylight when they're trying to enjoy their vacation. A note about kids: after WWII ended and everyone was having babies, kids were everywhere and started becoming an accepted part of society, and then made a niche for themselves at "teenagers" in the 1950's. By the mid-1950's, the family structure had strengthened and the idea of all-inclusive family vacations was extremely popular. The kids dancing and playing at the front of the stage were just having a good time and enjoying themselves; they weren't screaming, yelling, fighting or throwing things. They weren't doing anything wrong. Distracting, maybe, but not destructive. Besides, most of the entertainment was just music. So do you have to pay attention to every split second of it? The parents were most likely right there on the grass enjoying a beverage and making sure their kids were safe. Kids are the minority at Tiki Oasis, but they will continue to be an integral part of the event for the rest of it's existence, so just enjoy the parts of the event that you like the best. |
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I, Zombie
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 4:48 AM
I thought one of the real delights of this year's Oasis was the magician, the knife throwing act, and the Lampshades. Thanks Otto and Baby Doe for mixing it up more at this year's event. I think these sorts of acts are a great compliment to the burlesque and the bands! FANTASTIC OASIS! |
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I, Zombie
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 5:11 AM
Well said! |
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Big Vic
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 5:15 AM
I want to go to Tiki Oasis and just let my hair down (figure of speech since I have very little ). I want to drink and stumble around and hang out with other stumbling drunk adults. I don't want to watch what I say or worry about being a bad example etc. Yea the kids were well behaved but some of the slightly older ones were sneaking into room parties. (Of course I would have done the same thing as at their age) but, I don't want to worry about that. Keep the events apart. Don't sanitize Tiki Oasis. While I don't watch the naked girls on stage, I like chatting and flirting with them after their show. I don't need some 7 year old taking notes on what to do when he gets a bit older! I guess I'll just be a bad influence on kids those four days every year. I guess I can't worry about it. |
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JOHN-O
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 7:52 AM
Here's my latest Tiki idea. How about we actually leverage children for an upcoming Tiki Oasis theme ?? We can call it "Mid-century Childhood Nightmares". Think... "Invaders from Mars" "5,000 Fingers of Dr. T" "Night of the Hunter" and then there was that "Leave it Beaver" episode where the Beav gets locked overnight in a Tiki restaurant and imagines all of the Tikis coming to life. Children are Tiki !! |
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JasonLeeSurf
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:26 AM
A Big Thanks to Otto/Baby Doe for Having me back to teach Spy Guitar this year. I remember 3 years ago it was just something we brought up losely as an idea, but I think the class is starting to pan out over the years. Our third year playing the Pool and we had a blast as always I really want to thank all the insiders that make it happen. Jim giddings, Cammo, Mateo and the whole gang. Cammo and Jim thanks so much for making the Cove room work again for the Lessons. You two know how much work it is equipment wise to pull something like that off and I appreciate it. Thanks to Cult of the Eye for having us play not just friday night, but Sat night at there room party's. As we talked about, We are IN for next year. It was an honor to play with Martini Kings this year on the Mainstage and I had such a blast ! Thanks Tony See you all Next year. - Stay tuned for more info I will be posting on the Spy Guitar Lessons. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:59 PM
NikkiNapalm & everyone else, Thanks for not going ape shit over my opinion I grew up in the 50s & 60s and it was a whole different world then But to be fair the Tiki crowd has some great kids who have great parents John-O, love the "Invaders from Mars" insert, I see what you did..... |
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 1:54 PM
Glass cubes to put the children in!?!? Not even sure if I am extremely amused at this or concerned. Hmmm... we might have to put a few adults in glass boxes too. The whole thing could get very interesting. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 9:09 PM
Hey TCers, Today I heard of a few incidences of people |
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Chippy
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:59 PM
I saw a post with some comments about this on Facebook a few days back, but that was all I heard about it. From what the people were commenting on it did seem to be consistent with the ole 'Mickey Fin' |
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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:48 PM
uhhhhhh..... I thought it was hilarious, Jeff(btd) |
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NikkiNapalm
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 8:33 AM
Yeah, not cool. She is absolutely gorgeously barbie-doll breathtaking, but yeah...maybe next year leave a little bit more clothing on if you see 20 munchkins in front of you? Oh well. |
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 8:46 AM
Way to be crappy parents! All your kids are going to grow up to become alcoholic sex perverts and strippers! Buzzy Out! |
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MadDogMike
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 8:58 AM
I was going to stay out of this conversation. Actually, Nikki and I talked at Oasis about the Daylight Burlesque Event and I just don't get it. I'm not a prude by any means, but I think there is a time and place for that (like in my hotel room :D ), I think the midnight indoor stage and the room parties are an appropriate time and place. I have no problem with making Tiki Oasis "Adults Only", then let the debauchery flow! I guess an alternative would a prominent disclaimer before ticket sales stating "There WILL be public nudity at this event" and the parents can choose what they want to expose their children too. Zsandora if you read this, please know this is not an attack on you. I didn't watch much, but from what I saw you are a beautiful woman with a talent for dancing. Tiki Oasis has created a culture where this is allowed and even encouraged, the discussion is if it should be. |
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Cammo
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 3:59 PM
Now I feel really bad about missing the Zsandora dance! |
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GoodForTheGoose
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 8:11 PM
Hey Buzzy, How does it feel to have crappy parents, you pervert? Haha!!! |
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Atomic Cocktail
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 9:29 PM
Stop coddling your kids and the next time they run into someone with MOTHER F@CKING TOURETTE'S they won't be freaked out. |
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 9:36 PM
Leave your kids home!! Szandora is awesome and if you want to bring your kids to a rum fueled weekender than what they see is what they see. I just wish The Swank Bastards took off their clothes too because they looked hot...like literally. [ Edited by: sandradee 2012-08-27 02:07 ] |
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:09 PM
Well, our Tiki Oasis Spy Clip experiment was a bust. We didn't get one clip emailed to the command center, lol. Must've been the rum....or T.I.K.I. |
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hazmania
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:00 PM
Tiki Oasis jumped the shark this year, IMHO. Moving the burlesque dancers (on stage during band breakdown and setup) in order to accomodate children? Why am I subjected to babysitting these kids? Why are these kids running around unsupervised, anyway? This has been getting more annoying each year. I get the use of an annual theme - more variety in bookings, etc. Past year themes (surf, Hawaii, pirates) and entertainment (surf, Herb Alpert) at least had some time or vague commonality (water, island) to tiki culture. How does an 80's ska band relate to tiki? Or even to a 60's spy theme for that matter, other than they (and thousands of other bands) have a couple of songs that reference the topic? [ Edited by: hazmania 2012-08-27 13:02 ] |
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I, Zombie
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 2:53 PM
Hey can one of you old timer's who've been to every T.O. list the themes they've had in the past? Just curious. I've been to 11 and 12 - and really enjoyed both. I love the themes - whether they're directly related to Tiki or not, since I love costume/theme parties. Wasn't a big fan of them in the past, but in recent years I've found that costume or theme parties are the only parties I really, really enjoy. Regular parties (and maybe this is because I've grown older with the same friends) but seem like a bunch of people sitting around stuffing their faces on bad food. Costumes/themes give parties new life. Having a Love Boat party this winter, for example. (Did you know that Ray Milland, Menudo, and Andy Warhol were ALL on Love Boat - as well as the entire cast of 3's Company?) The guest star potential is unreal! Then we're thinking of really going off the deep end with theme ideas: "1972 Realtors Convention: Iowa City, IA" and a really deep down one: "7-11 Breakroom, circa 1993." |
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 3:18 PM
I agree with hazmania,but I think Tiki O jumped the shark 1-2 years ago. |
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PiPhiRho
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 3:27 PM
As I recall, the Tiki Oasis themes were: TO 12: Spy TO 11: South of the Border TO 10: "Extravaganza" (basically, the theme was the 10th anniversary) TO 9: Surfs Up TO 8: Zombie TO 7: Hawaii a go go TO 6: The magic of tiki TO 5: Pirates TO 4: If I remember there were two themes. Saturday night was "tikis in space" and Friday was "Savage". TO 3: Marooned at Tiki Oasis Tiki Oasis 1 and 2 didn't really have themes. The themes were basically just "Tiki". And, IMHO, Tiki Oasis jumped the shark when it moved to San Diego. I still love tiki Oasis and have a great time there, but it hasn't been "tiki" for a long time. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 3:38 PM
What themes would you guys like? I still would like to see a Retro 1950s Sci Fi, Noir or Hard boiled theme But what I see coming is a Disneyland theme (Shudder) Since we have Hulabilly coming up, Punk or New Wave in the near future? |
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JOHN-O
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 4:00 PM
I vote for:
Edit - Also ATP we can't have a Disney theme, Otto would have to pay licensing to the Disney corporation making that cost prohibitive. [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2012-08-27 16:04 ] |
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 4:14 PM
If I didn't know John-O, I'd be disgusted by his post (mostly the hippy one). But every year it's the same.... so much complaining about Oasis. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 4:33 PM
Good point on the licensing, John Spike you should be resting after your 3 day gig marathon, what do you want to turn into.....Me! |
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 4:59 PM
I don't think a Disney theme is that out of the question. But then I work for Disney, so there you go! Personally I would love a 50's Science Fiction or 60's hippie theme. The dance floor before the burlesque was very 60's-70's mod. Looked like a "Laugh In" dance break. Or Jules Verne Tiki (Mysterious Island/20,000 Leagues/Around the World). The psycho weirdness of Alice in Wonderland would be fantastic with this group! I'm so sorry I missed the first 9 years of Oasis. Not a fan of Punk or New Wave. Sorry. |
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hazmania
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 5:17 PM
Probably right: changing crowd (lots of missing "regulars" this year), more crime, less tiki-centric vending. It just pains me to acknowledge my denial of its accelerating slide. I guess you can't go home again. |
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bigtikidude
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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:52 PM
Pilgrim Tiki. White man coming to America and pushing the Indians west, is similar to white man coming to the Polynesian Islands and pushing them out, and or killing them with euro diseases. Jeff(btd) |
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 8:53 AM
if you missed KING PARIS and THE MARTINI KINGS you can hear samples now and download a track from their debut cd. not available anywhere except right here! |
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I, Zombie
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 2:59 PM
Thanks for the info! I've heard something about a hillbilly theme for next year(?) is that confirmed or just a rumor?...More curious than anything because I have a wedding to go to next year (yeah EXACTLY in the middle of Tiki Oasis! - damn) Hopefully there is another Tikis in Space on the horizon - love that theme and the potential for great costuming. I also hope they repeat the Spy theme. No shame in repeating a great idea.
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Luckydesigns
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 3:29 PM
Next year is HULABILLY |
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 4:45 PM
Baby Doe said it would be RockaHulaBilly like Elvis in Hawaii. We'd like more Hawaiian and Exotica music next year. Elvis would be nice, can Otto get him? Wendy |
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 8:50 PM
Thank you ATP. As far as kids attending....well most of you know my opinion on it. If you don't, talk to me next year in person and I think I can put your concerns at ease. Peace with every step. |
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bigtikidude
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 10:10 PM
Kids at Tiki events are great, Jeff(btd) |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 10:44 PM
Jeff & his long pig love |
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bigtikidude
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 10:46 PM
Tiki Oasis 2014, Long Pig Luau, Jeff(btd) |
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Otto
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 11:41 PM
Kate Flannery and Jay Leno were talking about Tiki Oasis last night on The Tonight Show http://www.hulu.com/watch/395310#iundefined,p7,s20,d0 At approx 37:40 into the show Kate mentions "…the Tiki festival in San Diego…" and shows this pic of her and Scot Robinson at TO12. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 12:26 AM
I like how Jay just shows no real interest in anything he talks about |
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PiPhiRho
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 12:51 AM
500 40 year old nerds dressing up? I think it was closer to 3000. And they weren't all 40 years old. |
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 12:53 AM
I'll take the 40...... |
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SandraDee
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 8:25 AM
You noticed that too, huh? Regardless of what the theme is people are always going to have their opinion on it. I see plenty of people who don't participate in dressing up to go along with the theme and instead just wear what they would normally wear to a tiki related gathering and they seem to have just as much fun as the rest of us. Great party this year Otto. I loved the Spy theme..and I had no interest in how it connected to a tiki event..I just am partial to men in suits and tuxes :) |
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 9:00 AM
The only thing I would like to see is my band, the Smokin' Menehunes, doing a poolside gig. We have not played tiki oasis since 2004, I believe. Though I love all the tiki offshoots, my first love is the tiki experience as it relates to the period of time from 1950 to 1970. Ok, I admit...the brady bunch episode. Blue hawaii. Diamondhead. South pacific. I still think someone should check out paradise point in san diego as a possible alternative place to hold the event. partying in an ornamental tropical jungle would be awesome! |
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 9:32 AM
I have read all the comments and suggestions on how to change/improve /re-work Tiki Oasis that has been posted here on TC. We always appreciate constructive comments and try our best to include things to our event to make it that much better. I do want to add that Otto and I do Tiki Oasis because we are big fans of 'TIKI' (obviously!) and yes that can be interpreted in many ways... so the most simple way I can put it is that Otto and I present something we are very proud of at Tiki Oasis and an interpretation of Tiki that we have put some solid thinking into. We spend our days at our demanding day jobs, our evenings and weekends with our kids, we do our side projects... Djing for Otto and Dancing with The Devil-Ettes for Baby Doe... and we somehow fit in leading hikes with the Cub Scouts, being room parents and anything else we can do for our kids and when our day is done we spend our NIGHTS working on TIKI OASIS! It takes over a year to plan this event (and we do not do it alone - see below). What we present at Tiki Oasis is something we are proud of and excited about.... it is our passion, our hobby, our obsession. If you want the event to be authentic Hawaiian, there are other events that are already doing this quite well (wayyy better than we are!) that you can attend, If you only like parts of the event, enjoy those bits, if you want to ignore some parts of the event (like kids or burlesque dancers or the themes) please do...I believe you will still have fun. What we present is from our heart. Otto and I are extremely proud of what we have been able to accomplish over the last 12 years of creating and producing Tiki Oasis and thrilled that we have been able to work with so many artists, musicians, people that we admire, fans, friends, etc that all believe in Tiki Oasis. See many of you at the next one! ++++++++++++ It is time for the MEGA thank you from the Tiki Oasis organizers! When we say that it takes a TIKI ARMY to make Tiki Oasis happen we are soooo NOT fibbing! Everyone from our staff to our performers to our volunteers to the vendors to the artists to our sponsors are the MAGIC behind making Tiki Oasis such a joy for all who attend! HIGH FIVES and FIST BUMPS to everyone listed below!! (Sorry in advance if I missed someone!) Thank you all, from the von Stroheim Family, for keeping Tiki Oasis alive and amazing year after year! XO Baby Doe and Otto von Stroheim ~~ TIKI OASIS STAFF: ~~ ~~ TIKI OASIS MAIN STAGE ENTERTAINMENT: ~~ ~~ DJ’s SPINNING THOSE PLATTERS ALL WEEKEND LONG! ~~ ~~ The Femme Fatales of Tiki Oasis… Burlesque*, Go Go Dancers and Hostesses and Pin-Up Cuties! ~~ ~~ SYMPOSIUM HOSTS/EDUCATORS/SCREENINGS AND MORE! ~~ ~~ TIKI OASIS MISSION TO:12 ARTSHOW ~~ ~~ Tiki Oasis 2012 VOLUNTEERS filling over 140 shifts over the course of the weekend! ~~ ~~ VENDORS AND SPONSORS OH MY! ~~ ~~ TIKI OASIS 4TH ANNUAL CAR SHOW! ~~ ~~ TIKI OASIS FIRST EVER SCOOTER SHOW! ~~
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Bill5925
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 10:46 AM
Tiki Oasis is a special event. I know I'll support it whatever the theme. If it's something I detest, such as punk, I may stay off site, but I'll still be there for the party atmosphere. (The hotel will sell out anyway!) I appreciate the tremendous hard work that goes into this event. We all give suggestions because we all have likes and dislikes and want to see our favorites. But unless we put on our own event we shouldn't cry because we don't get our way. Personally, I don't see how you can separate Tiki from the Hawaii, South Seas vibe. I think the Smokin' Menehunes are terrific and would love to see them by the pool. But again, the event is too much fun to miss regardless. |
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Kiwi Steve
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 10:50 AM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU BABYDOE AND EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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babydoe
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Wed, Aug 29, 2012 10:58 AM
We do listen to people's likes and dislikes cause that means you guys want to see the event get better and improve! It is hard to please everyone but honestly we are our own harshest critics! Sometimes we try things and they work and sometimes they don't! If we could we would do more than one TO so we could really get it right! xxo |