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Ive noticed a lot of people are a bit, ummm, purist about the Zombie. Particularly the 1934 - I'm just saying! We are all making efforts to recreate the flavour we don't know - unless we are 90 odd & can still remember our youth. I've made a few 'google' recipes that weren't great. I've quite enjoyed Beachbum recipes Ive made subbing Woods 100 as I haven't had any LH151. Therefore technically not a 'real' Zombie in some eyes. Unless we've used the specific rums used at the time, technically, no-one has had any 'real' Zombies for a while! Anyway, I have located a missing part of the my Zombie puzzle - a LH151 supplier to the UK & will be ordering some soon. I recently discovered that Grog Log had another Zombie recipe. Wait - what!?! I'd not heard of that one! I found out a bit more about the recipe & got to thinking: no doubt there are a lot of Zombie recipes out there but how many can we find in print? I'm not talking about the ones you can find on drinks databases from Google without a source, I'm thinking of the 'forgotten' tiki bar recipes like the ones below circa 1930 to 1970! Id like to collate them. So far through contributions on TC we have: ABC of Mixing Cocktails 1919 (page 1 of this thread) Undated: All dates are likely the subject of debate! They may represent the year the drink appeared or when a book was published. Anyone got any more published 'forgotten' tiki bar recipes? If you can add another I'll edit the above list to put them in chronological order ~ yes I am thinking of mixing through them all! [ Edited by: AdOrAdam 2013-08-21 15:06 ] |
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Mon, Aug 19, 2013 3:41 PM
That's quite the endeavor! I'll be curious to see what contributions you get. If you look at the recent posts, it looks like most of the activity on TC is either event focused or tiki carving focused. My suspicion is that it's just the time of year, but TC has been around for a long time and I'm sure for most if the old timers it seems like lots of topics have been discussed to death. I, for one, appreciate your enthusiasm! Sadly, I have nothing to contribute. :) |
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Mon, Aug 19, 2013 6:33 PM
Does anybody here have a copy (or reproduction) of Patrick Gavin Duffy's 1934 Mixer's Manual? I know there is a 1948 edition and I can understand the Beachcomber 1934 Zombie being twaeked and reinterpreted and mutated into Duffy's version over the course of 14 years, but I have a harder time believing that Duffy's very out there Zombie was printed in a cocktail book the very same year Donn first concocted the drink. I understand that with Donn's secretiveness regarding his recipes that imitator's versions are going to be all over the map as far as the presumptive ingredients, but it just seems too uncannily timely for Duffy to have published such a far-removed recipe the same year Donn introduced his. And all in the year after Repeal to boot! I love all this cocktail history! [ Edited by: Sunny&Rummy 2013-08-19 18:35 ] |
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Mon, Aug 19, 2013 7:04 PM
The Hawaii Kai cookbook from the 70's may have had one. I just moved but haven't found all the bar books yet. gabbahey |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 7:52 AM
I have a copy of The Official Mixer's Manual, by Patrick Gavin Duffy. It is apparently a 1940 reprint of the 1934 edition. After the title page, it says: Copyright 1940 by Copyright 1934 by I suspect the Zombie was inserted for the 1940 printing, because it differs in style from the other recipes. It specifies ounces, where in the other recipes, Duffy says, e.g., "1/2 Dry Gin" and "Use glass number 10". It would be interesting to see if this recipe is in the original 1934 printing, if anyone has a copy. "The rum's the thing..." [ Edited by: Limbo Lizard 2013-08-20 09:09 ] |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 7:59 AM
Okay, I'm game! :) Here's the first one, as printed. Harry's ABC of Mixing Cocktails: with new material from the Harry’s Bar team In a very tall tumbler: 1 ounce of Jamaica Rum, 1 ounce of Light Rum, 1/4 ounce of Cointreau. Add equal parts of Lime Juice, Orange Juice, Pineapple Juice, 2 dashes of Grenadine. Stir and decorate with fruit, float 151 Proof Rum on top. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:09 AM
Professional Mixing Guide: The Accredited List of Recognized and Accepted Standard Formulas for Mixed Drinks Original and authentic Carioca recipe 1oz tropical heavy bodied rum, 2oz Puerto Rican or Cuban Gold Label rum, 1oz. White Label rum, 2 teaspoonfuls apricot brandy, 3/4oz unsweetened pineapple juice, 3/4oz papaya juice, 1 teaspoonful fine granulated sugar, juice of 1 lime. Shake well with plenty of cracked ice and pour unstrained into a 14oz zombie glass. Float a splash of 151 proof tropical heavy bodied rum on top. Spike on a toothpick, in the order named, 1 green cherry, 1/2 inch pineapple stick, 1 red cherry. Decorate with this and a sprig of mint. Sprinkle powdered sugar over all and serve. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:24 AM
The Zombie recipe that I first started using in 1979 was one I got from Grossman's Guide to Wine, Beer and Spirits (not sure which edition). I had to give it up for a while, due to no longer being able to find Falernum (it was Sazerac ) and Lemon Hart 151. Now that I have those again, I still make one, now and then. ZOMBIE (from Grossman's Guide) |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:35 AM
[Included misspellings, etc. from source.] The Gentleman's Companion AN EXOTIC COCONUT-COGNAC COCKTAIL from CAP HAITIEN, REPUBLIC de HAITI, and which Is CALLED the ZOMBIE Any one who knows his Haiti and his Vaudou knows what a Zombie is; and for those who don't, a Zombie is merely a departed brother who, for reasons not generally attractive, has been called back from the Spirit World, labours without pay, without food, without complaint, in a weird sort of spirit bondage. . . . We have just helped "spring" an artist friend, Christopher Clark, from a five months' stay in Cap Haitien, where he had been soaking up material and madly painting the unbelievable scenery and even more unbelievable people of Haiti, as a follow-up to the wave of acclaim which greeted his The Crapshooters, in last year's American Art Exhibit at Rockefeller Center, and we fetched him via Pan American to do a mural for us. Chris brought back a long list of amazing cookery receipts, too late for this volume, but we are squeezing in this Zombie Cocktail, he claiming that it will put the spirits to work for you, but whether they or ourselves, are in bondage, is something for each man to decide according to occasion and the needs thereof. Enriched coconut milk, see be- Maraschino, 2 ponies Put in shaker with lots of very finely cracked ice, shake hard and turn ice and all—à Ia Daiquiri—into small, chilled goblets. . . . Another variation, and a much better flavoured one we find, is found by using only two jiggers cognac, and one jigger old Haitian—or other medium dark—rum. Enriched coconut milk: Get a ripe coconut anywhere. Bore two holes in eyes and drain out water into saucepan—being careful to strain out fibres or bits of shell. . . . Crack open nut, peel off brown outer skin from kernel, and either grate, grind, or cut up fine and add to water. . . . Fetch to a simmer for five minutes. Put through a fine cloth, squeezing out the final rich cream by hand. Ripe fresh coconuts can be had in most good grocery stores these days. . . . Those possessing The Mixer will save an incredible amount of time by cutting up kernel, with brown part unremoved, into the top container of The Mixer; turn in the coconut juice. Reduce to a pulp at high speed for 1 minute, then rub through a very fine sieve, or strain through several thicknesses of cloth. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:43 AM
By the time the 1975 edition of Duffy's book came out, the recipe had changed to a more simplified version. The Official Mixer’s Manual 1 Jigger Dark Rum Shake well with ice. Pour into tall glass. Garnish with Pineapple and Cherries. On top float a little Medium Rum. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:48 AM
Those are great; thanks, David! |
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Limbo Lizard
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:49 AM
Here's the recipe from the 1947 Bartender's Guide, by Trader Vic. (In the 1972 edition, it had changed to a weaker, juicier recipe.) ZOMBIE (1947 TVBG) This recipe is from the 1952 edition of Ted Saucier's Bottoms Up: ZOMBIE |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 10:00 AM
In making the Grogalizer, I also had the issue that The Bum threw curve balls on the Zombie. He renamed them and juggled the recipes. I seem to recall in one book he had a "50's Zombie" and in another the "Mid-Century Zombie" but the recipes did not exactly jive, so I had to guess. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 10:03 AM
I think that's the exact version in my bartending school notes. I was on my azz after consuming that. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 2:59 PM
Found some additions to the list. Old Mr. Boston De Luxe Official Bartender's Guide 1968 Edition:
Wonder which edition this recipe appeared in first... From 1974's 1001 Cocktails in a Shake (by Coles Books), a slight twist on the above recipe:
From Drinks of Hawaii (a colorful, illustrated manual with various 1970s printings), a new spin:
I have an 1980 edition of David A. Embury's Mixing Drinks (originally The Art of Mixing Drinks) but I'm not sure if the Zombie appeared in either the 1948 or 1953 editions. He actually has an interesting, if a little controversial, write up on the Zombie:
Quite a wordy and possibly offensive write-up! Anyone know if this tirade appears in either of the earlier editions? [ Edited by: Brandomoai 2013-08-20 15:06 ] |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:56 PM
Esquire Drink Book 1956 Zombie There are two other versions in the book one is called Zombie A La No 1 Boy and the other is called Zombie A La Puerto Rico. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 10:12 PM
Zombie Blend ingredients with crushed ice for five seconds on high and pour into a large glass or tiki mug. Garnish with a mint sprig. Zombie Blend all ingredients, except Curacao, with crushed ice in a blender and pour into a tall glass. Float Curacao. Garnish with a mint sprig and pineapple wedge. Zombie Blend ingredients with ice. Pour into a frosted chimney glass. Garnish with a parasol and a straw. A later revision of this cocktail replaced the grenadine with two dashes of Hawaiian Punch. Zombie Pour ingredients into a cocktail shaker with crushed ice. Shake well and pour contents into a tiki mug. Garnish with pineapple wedge and cocktail cherry. *House Mix: 1 part orange juice, 1 part pineapple juice, 1 part lemon juice, 1 part grenadine Asian Zombie Shake ingredients with crushed ice in a cocktail shaker. Pour into a tall glass and garnish with a lemon slice and a cocktail cherry. Atomic Zombie Moisten rim of chilled glass with a lime wedge and dip in ground Demerara sugar. Coat inside of glass with absinthe. Place mint in shaker and gently muddle for 15 to 20 seconds, coating bottom and sides of shaker with oils from mint. Add rums and gently muddle for another 15 to 20 seconds. Add remaining ingredients to shaker. Add 1 cup of cubed ice and shake vigorously for 15 to 20 seconds. Strain drink into glass. Zombie Shake everything – except 151-proof Demerara Rum – with ice cubes. Pour into tall glass. Float Demerara 151-proof on top of drink. Garnish with ½ slice pineapple, orange slice, cocktail cherry, pineapple leaf and mint sprig. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 11:12 PM
I confirmed my suspicion. The Zombie recipe was NOT in Duffy's original 1934 version. I found a Google image of that same page (209) from the 1934 edition. After the 'Sunshine Cocktail', there was just empty space. The Zombie was added in the empty space, beginning with the 1940 edition. |
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 3:35 AM
Thanks for confirming that. It was my assumption as well that Duffy would not have been so on the ball as to have had a Zombie recipe in 1934 if that was the very year Donn invented it. |
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 7:32 AM
That's in the original 1948 version, according to someone who has it. Amusing, although a bit overblown. :) |
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 7:45 AM
I'll vouch for the Duffy version (as reprinted in the 1st ed of Grog Log). It may be way off from the original, but it will zombify you nonetheless. Also introduced me to the wonders of Applejack; gotta love that! |
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 8:13 AM
I'm guessing this was one of AdOrAdam's first references: http://wiki.webtender.com/wiki/Zombie |
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Limbo Lizard
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:44 AM
BTW, readers of this thread may wish to dip back into this earlier Zombie Recipe discussion. It begins before, and continues after, Berry acquired the loose-leaf pocket drink notebook of Dick Santiago, who worked at Don's between 1937-53, with its Zombie Punch recipe. "The rum's the thing..." [ Edited by: Limbo Lizard 2013-08-21 12:15 ] |
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Wed, Aug 21, 2013 3:19 PM
Cheers TikiTacky, much appreciated comment for a 1st poster. I second the motion: Tiki Central needs a 'I, for one, appreciate your enthusiasm! Sadly, I have nothing to contribute' button :)
Not even that! My first recipe was this miscellaneous one: http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink624.html I subbed the overproof rum & brought apricot brandy specially for the occasion... I was severally disappointed! In fairness, I knew how to make cocktails back then but tiki requires a bit more 'something' I have more of now. I didnt try another Zombie til I got Sippin Safari about a year ago.
I read that post before creating this thread - cheers to you Mr Limbo Lizard :) Note the post by Alnshely on page one - pretty much the 1934 Zombie isnt it? Considering it was posted in 2003, four years before Sippin Safari was posted... We're up to 32 recipes now (chronologically ordered on page 1) :) |
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FYI, there's a newly updated recipe for The Mai-Kai's Zombie up now on The Atomic Grog, along with lots of discussion of the drink's history ... |
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Wed, May 20, 2015 10:17 AM
Trader Vic's 1944 recipe, from Life magazine, is listed in the roll of recipes in the first post, sourced to Wikipedia. I noticed Martiki posted this recipe in another Zombie thread, back in 2003, but I'll include it here. The recipe is on page 82 of Life, Sept. 4, 1944 issue. (The article about Trader Vic's begins on page 79, and Google Books has it, here.) "1 oz. orange-lime juice"? What is this enigmatic ingredient from the days of yore? "The rum's the thing..." [ Edited by: Limbo Lizard 2015-05-21 12:51 ] |
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Wed, Jun 3, 2015 5:15 PM
So I just attempted to make the Aku Aku Zombie on page 172 of Beachbum Berry's Remixed [actually, a double...], and I sort of fudged the "Zombie Mix" portion of it by using the 1/8th teaspoon method. It turned out somewhat too cinnamon or tart, so; in desperation and wanting to save the liquor already in the mug, added about 3 ounces of orange juice...and it has leveled out to be a wonderful drink. I was just curious if anyone has a 'Go To' avenue to attempt to save an otherwise yucky drink...? I thank you for your indulgence - JV |
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