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Official Tiki Oasis 2012 thread for TO12

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On 2012-08-29 10:46, Bill5925 wrote:
Tiki Oasis is a special event. I know I'll support it whatever the theme. If it's something I detest, such as punk, I may stay off site, but I'll still be there for the party atmosphere. (The hotel will sell out anyway!) I appreciate the tremendous hard work that goes into this event. We all give suggestions because we all have likes and dislikes and want to see our favorites. But unless we put on our own event we shouldn't cry because we don't get our way.

Personally, I don't see how you can separate Tiki from the Hawaii, South Seas vibe. I think the Smokin' Menehunes are terrific and would love to see them by the pool. But again, the event is too much fun to miss regardless.

I agree with everything you say (and thank you for supporting our band!)

I hope babydoe does not take my suggestions as a complaint. It's not. Just what I would personally like to see, and nothing more. The tremendous hard work to set up an event like this must be mind boggling.

I also don't see how you can separate tiki from hawaii. BUT, I think where people make the mistake is by comparing modern, post 1970 hawaii to vintage hawaii. Tiki in hawaii is not about slack key, folky acoustic guitar and uke stuff, or jawaiian...and I think that's what more then a few tiki centralites think people like me are talking about.

Nope. It's jazzy, swinging music that a band like mine (and the sweet hollywaiians) play, NOT the modern stuff....so when you think tiki in hawaii, don't think "shaka brah" or anything like that....picture the brady family having their luau..or Elvis with his beach boys in "Blue hawaii".....

Ok? The Hukilau Hulas CD is a fine example of great hawaiian music...hapa haole!

And I am not talking either about pre-tiki stuff from the 20's and 30's either.

Having said that (jeff will kill me for this) I don't consider garage rock, punk or surf to be tiki at all. BUT, I realize that if we stick to my idea of what tiki should be, few would come to an event like this. You practically need the mosh pits and the 80's ska bands to keep a modern crowd's interest.

So on one hand, I realize the reason for bringing in all the stuff that is only marginally related to anything found in Sven's BOT (for example) and calling it tiki...or even, centering your whole event around it is to actually bring people in....part of me would like to see tiki oasis modified a little...for purely selfish reasons, of course!

I can tell you this: I have had fun at all three tiki oasis I have attended, but have to be honest and say that the music I enjoyed the best was when the mai-kai gents dudes were playing in the elevator a few years back. That was the bomb....and I rode the elevator up and down all night listening to them.

I am rethinking a "Punk" theme,
At my age I would look ridiculous in bondage pants!

Geriatric Tiki Punks, Oi! Slam Dancing will become Slam Shuffling in walkers or Slam Bingo, double Oi!

T

Thanks Baby Doe and Otto for taking the time out your busy schedule to work on an event that only occurs once a year. Your time, as we all know, is precious. To dedicate those extra moments for the planning, coordinating, booking, etc. cannot go without a big big thanks.

The theme for this year was awesome. For next years theme - hulabilly - is there any fashion/design you could direct me to for ideas?

Thanks!

Tiki-ESP, Just think Hawaiian/Rockabilly, but defiantly not "Hillbilly"

why are there no Hills in Hawaii?

I was finally gonna dress up next year,
Barrel with suspenders n all.
:o

Jeff(btd)

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Otto posted on Wed, Aug 29, 2012 8:21 PM

On 2012-08-29 13:54, Tiki-ESP wrote:
The theme for this year was awesome. For next years theme - hulabilly - is there any fashion/design you could direct me to for ideas?

first off, thanks to everyone for participating in this year's event and theme and for ideas posted here.
Because we only do a show ONE time a year it can take a few years to get around to some of these ideas!!

As for the HULABILLY theme next year, we will post images, musical references, and eventually a history of HulaBilly on the Tiki Oasis Website before the end of the year and announce it here.

Suffice to say that HulaBilly has its roots in Paniolos but really flourished in the 1930s-1940s in middle California (Fresno, Bakersfield, Riverside) as Western Swing. Almost all groups featured slack key guitar - with the likes of Bob Wills, Spade Cooley, Bob Dunn being the most famous. Also, pretty much every one of those groups did covers of some Hawaiian tunes. Likewise, some Hawaiian groups of the time played danceable Western Swing rhythms for mainland tourists. It continued as a minor sub-genre of country music and/or Rockabilly music and I would cite it's official end with Blue Hawaii and Elvis' "Rock-A-Hula"
Of course Elvis was a major HulaBilly force for the better part of his career. ; )

I don't want to start a big debate on this (yet), just want to give some reference because a lot of people are asking about it

*note - I believe Otto meant "steel guitar" not "slack key"

BV

I'm OK with whatever you decide to do. I've not been disappointed yet! The creativity and outlandish twists and turns of Tiki Oasis always pleases me to no end. No matter what the theme, I seem to just stick to straight up Tiki wear (except, of course, with a costume change for Tiki Hell) . Perhaps this is the perfect place to begin The Official Tiki Oasis 2013 thread for TO13?

I am glad Otto brought up the Central California "Western Swing" bands
which my great Aunt "Rose Maddox" of the Maddox Brothers & Rose where a big part of,
this is proto-Rockabilly and did have a heavy steel guitar presence in the sound.

Lance! Are you SHITTIN ME?!? You're related to The Maddox Bros. & Rose? I actually know of that group. The usual Country/Cowboy/Hillbilly songs but also some that really jump, Western Swing with a beat, sort of a Cowboy Boogie Woogie almost. Do that makes ya happy? I shore hope it do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDY5LrQOqTQ :D

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Otto posted on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 8:05 AM

Meet tonight at Trader Vic's Emeryville to chat about Tiki Oasis and discuss TO post party (happening next month)
http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=38985&forum=17&hilite=trader%20vic%27s

While I do think this event is getting to be too kid friendly (especially the constant humoring of those who feel the need to get onstage every five minutes), I think the event ran FAR smoother than last years. I was highly critical about 2011 and I think that this year Baby Doe and Otto addressed a lot of those concerns. Loved the quick check in process (though I think you should give out the event pamphlets with the wristbands- a lot of people seemed to miss them at the entrance by going around the side of Bali Hai) and the security keepin' some obvious crashers out. My bitch this year is that there seemed to be less music, I swear there were more bands last year and previous. I can see Cabernet Dance and The Devil-Ettes as poolside and pre-show entertainment, but as main attractions, no.
Despite my complaints, I do appreciate all the hard work put into this event by everybody. I'm a lifer (only missed #2) and I'm gonna come no matter what. But I may bitch once in a while. Or more.

Not to toot Jason, Larry and I's horns but "TOOT TOOT". We got a little airtime on KPBS just prior to the event. Posting it here for anyone who's interested.
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/aug/17/tiki-culture-celebrated-annual-festival-san-diego/

On 2012-08-29 20:47, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I am glad Otto brought up the Central California "Western Swing" bands
which my great Aunt "Rose Maddox" of the Maddox Brothers & Rose where a big part of,
this is proto-Rockabilly and did have a heavy steel guitar presence in the sound.

Wow! The Maddox Brothers and Rose were an amazing band. Way back when I played in a band we covered this tune by them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPY3LDDyUbY

in case some of you didn't see it in the other thread:

Tiki Oasis 2012 in 120 secs
sneakyjack

injoy -
http://youtu.be/9URL9_7VVgo

On 2012-08-29 20:47, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I am glad Otto brought up the Central California "Western Swing" bands
which my great Aunt "Rose Maddox" of the Maddox Brothers & Rose where a big part of,
this is proto-Rockabilly and did have a heavy steel guitar presence in the sound.

Very, very cool! My mom still has her signed photo of the Maddox Brothers and Rose (from the 1950's) when they would appear at places such as Riverside Rancho. Love that sound!

That's very cool that you guys even know who they are, least enough heard the tunes!
thanks for keeping the memories alive!

On 2012-08-29 20:47, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I am glad Otto brought up the Central California "Western Swing" bands
which my great Aunt "Rose Maddox" of the Maddox Brothers & Rose where a big part of,
this is proto-Rockabilly and did have a heavy steel guitar presence in the sound.

Omigosh! That is SO incredibly cool that you are related to Rose Maddox! My husband & I are huge fans.

S
sec.8 posted on Sun, Sep 2, 2012 10:29 PM

waz the hullabaloo about next year!?! live in the past folks....

used and abused surplus spy stock

found bottom of this page... Mission ends 9-9-12 18:00
http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=20050&forum=12&start=last&399

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Otto posted on Sun, Sep 2, 2012 11:17 PM
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Otto posted on Sun, Sep 2, 2012 11:28 PM

Does anyone have any extra pint glasses they are willing to sell or trade?

We accidentally forgot to grab a couple samples for ourselves and now we have none of our own pint glass designs

If you have some you are willing to part with please PM me

H

You might want to check out Hank Snow's Snow in Hawaii on Bear Family CD for authentic hulabilly. Plus the cover sports a caricature of Hank sitting on a Tiki playing a uke... and photos of Hank with leis and wahines inside. I'm not aware of an album that direct hits the theme more than this one. If there is one, I'd like to hear about it!

Very cool about the Maddox Bros. and Rose (and the number of people on this site that are familiar with them.)

J
JOHN-O posted on Tue, Sep 4, 2012 2:34 PM

:right: :right: :right:

J
JOHN-O posted on Tue, Sep 4, 2012 2:36 PM

On 2012-09-04 14:05, hazmania wrote:
You might want to check out Hank Snow's Snow in Hawaii on Bear Family CD for authentic hulabilly. Plus the cover sports a caricature of Hank sitting on a Tiki playing a uke... and photos of Hank with leis and wahines inside. I'm not aware of an album that direct hits the theme more than this one.

If there is one, I'd like to hear about it!...

Here you go :)...

H

I enjoyed them Sunday night at T.O. 11! They should be given a better slot next year. (Conference room OK for symposiums, not so much for live music.)

see this video from another thread.

the Girls of Tiki Oasis 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VqD0WDZvYE

BV

Hi all! I interrupt this topic with a very important message. As you may or may not know (or may not care) , I moved to Boise Idaho. I know virtually no one here. This evening while I was driving down the street I went by a very busy bar/ outside cafe called Beer 30. I heard someone yell " Hey, ask him about Tiki Oasis!" OK. Who are you?! What Boise person- besides me- went to Tiki Oasis? I would love to find a kindred spirit out here. Let me know.

I now return you to your most excellant topic. Thank you.

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Otto posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:31 PM

BigTikiDude tipped me to this article in The Wall Street Journal
September 28, 2012

Why Men Bond with the 007 Theme
The manly 'James Bond Theme' hits a psychological note; feelings of invincibility, memories of Dad
By MARC MYERS

Maybe it's the stealthy bass line. Or the machine-gun guitar solo. Or the swaggering wail of the horns. Or maybe it's all three shaken together. The "James Bond Theme" still has a way of making guys feel, well, more guy-ly. Marc Myers explains why on Lunch Break. Photo: Getty Images.

Maybe it's the stealthy bass line. Or the machine-gun guitar solo. Or the swaggering wail of the horns. Or maybe it's all three shaken together. Whatever the reasons (and there are many), the "James Bond Theme" still has a way of making guys feel, well, more guy-ly.

Fifty years after appearing in "Dr. No"—the first James Bond film, which had its premiere in London on Oct. 5, 1962—the jaunty theme is back with a vengeance. At the Olympics' opening ceremony, the theme played as Britain's "queen" parachuted from a helicopter. On Oct. 5, Vic Flick, the theme's original guitarist, will perform his signature solo during "The Music of James Bond: The First 50 Years" at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. And it will be laced throughout the latest Bond film, "Skyfall," opening on Nov. 9.

For millions of baby-boomer males who saw their first car chase and sex scene in a Bond film in the '60s, the theme song stirs powerful psychological coals, flipping a primal switch as images of silencers, casinos, bikinis, gin and gadgets flood the male brain.

"With male identity, there's a biological aspect to how we see ourselves, and for many men, the song releases feelings of invincibility and attractiveness," said Eugene Beresin, professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School. "Men link the theme to strength, adulthood and virility. It's like the smell of a childhood baseball glove or a father's aftershave."

But what exactly happens to trigger the flashback? "Music travels to the auditory nerve, where it's evaluated by the cerebral networks that process our emotions—before we even identify what we're hearing," Dr. Beresin said. "In a split second, our brain scans its files for a match. If the music unlocks memories, you are likely to reexperience the same emotions you felt when you first heard it."

The Bond theme also has a paternal tie-in. Before the current movie-rating system was instituted in 1968, most theaters prohibited teens from seeing movies with a mature theme unless accompanied by an adult. "Which means most boys saw the film with their dads, who took them as a rite of passage," said Louann Brizendine, professor of clinical psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco, and author of "The Male Brain." "The experience only strengthened the link between the song and coming of age."

The idea for a Bond theme began in late 1961, when "Dr. No" co-producer Albert Broccoli asked songwriter Monty Norman to compose music for the film, according to "The Music of James Bond" by Jon Burlingame. In early 1962, Mr. Norman traveled to the movie set in Jamaica, where he wrote the film's Caribbean-flavored songs before returning to London that spring.

[An aside in the original article with YouTube links:
The Search for Bond Themes:
Monty Norman, "Bad Sign, Good Sign"
John Barry, "Bees Knees" (1959)
The John Barry 7 "Beat Girl" (1959)
The James Bond Theme]

But time was running out for the theme. According to Mr. Norman's website, he reached into his bottom drawer for a song he had already written for an aborted musical called "A House For Mr. Biswas," based on the novel by V.S. Naipaul. It worked: The "Dr. No" producers liked the catchy melody on his "Bad Sign, Good Sign."

Next, Mr. Broccoli and co-producer Harry Saltzman turned to John Barry, a film composer who had seen some success with his John Barry Seven rock band. Mr. Barry added orchestration to Mr. Norman's melody line—but he felt his score still needed a dominant "voice" to symbolize Bond's masculinity.

"John called me over to his apartment in June 1962," recalled Mr. Flick, who was the John Barry Seven's lead guitarist. "He showed me Monty Norman's music and asked how we could give it more power." Mr. Flick pecked out Mr. Norman's melody on his guitar, Morse-code style, and suggested dropping the key to E-minor from A-minor for a stronger statement. And the theme as we know it was born.

In the end, Mr. Norman retained the theme's sole composer credit. When Mr. Barry hinted that he deserved partial credit in a British magazine in 1997 and London's Sunday Times followed up with a nasty jab at Mr. Norman, the theme's composer sued the paper, and the jury decided in his favor.

Legal shark-tanks aside, why do men find the deep guitar notes and swinging horns so intriguing? "There's a feeling of action and rhythmic rocking that releases a burst of dopamine—telling men they have the world by the tail," said Dr. Brizendine.

And women? "They're reminded," she said, "of an era of handsome, dashing men who they hoped would sweep them off their feet."

—Mr. Myers is the author of "Why Jazz Happened" (University of California Press), to be published in December.

J

On 2012-09-30 22:31, Otto wrote:

"Why Men Bond with the 007 Theme...
The manly 'James Bond Theme' hits a psychological note; feelings of invincibility, memories of Dad"

So... in anticipation of next year's Hulabilly theme let me share my childhood story of James Bond vs. Johnny Cash. In the early 1970's our home only had one television set and so the family always had to compromise on what to watch in the evenings. One particular night, I was really looking forward to one of the Sean Connery Bond films. To my dismay, my father preempted my selection with his choice of a Johnny Cash TV special. When I protested, commenting that country music was lame and that Bond was cooler, my father responded "Listen I grew up 'Grapes of Wrath' poor, fought in WWII and Korea, and you don't know shit !!".

Yes, the Bond theme is cool but when compared to songs like "Folsom Prison Blues","I Walk the Line", and "Man in Black", James Bond is a metrosexual poof. :D

Old dad was right !!

HT

JOHN-O's dad is officially a helluva guy. More parents should be like that these days, instead of letting their children (or in the case of some of my friends, dogs) dictate their lives.

But I digress...

So, one of the room parties had a rum punch. It was delicious. It was a room that faced the stage. It didn't have a lot of decorations, but there was a lovely fellow who greeted you out the door, and poured out of a large round cooler, a delicious rum punch that is the official recipe from either Appleton Estates or another rum distiller, that they serve at their welcome center.

Can anyone tell me who the rum distiller was, or share the recipe? Been dying to make it since I got back, and my memory isn't as good as it used to be.

Mahalo!

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Otto posted on Mon, Oct 1, 2012 11:13 PM

Relive the memories, see yourself in photos, if you are in a band you might want to peruse for possible promo shots!?!

http://www.artofalbertine.com/Events/Tiki-Oasis-2012

Wow!!
that is a ton of pics in there.
thanks for posting Otto!

Jeff(btd)

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Otto posted on Fri, Oct 5, 2012 11:03 PM

Here's some more!

Tiki Oasis is very photogenic!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shockhits/7853151354/in/photostream/

Thanks for all the photos...great memories.

On 2012-09-30 22:31, Otto wrote:
BigTikiDude tipped me to this article in The Wall Street Journal
September 28, 2012

Why Men Bond with the 007 Theme
The manly 'James Bond Theme' hits a psychological note; feelings of invincibility, memories of Dad

Legal shark-tanks aside, why do men find the deep guitar notes and swinging horns so intriguing? "There's a feeling of action and rhythmic rocking that releases a burst of dopamine”telling men they have the world by the tail," said Dr. Brizendine.

And women? "They're reminded," she said, "of an era of handsome, dashing men who they hoped would sweep them off their feet."

Well...I agree with the dashing men, but I was ALWAYS drawn to the awesome music also...the Bond theme still invokes a special thrill in my heart.

Because it just rocks!

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Cammo posted on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 7:30 PM

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