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Thanks to the following for investing to get this started: You are all amazing!!!
Anonymous Investor

Go to like 4;25 to get to the song.

Sven might know what song this is but you have to hit play to find out....
DeSchoWieda - Die Liebe de is groß

DeSchoWieda - Du Bistas (Last Christmas)

"Each mug is $95. Please use your name I’ve familiar with and under comments write Crawl mug 2018.
To Pay by Paypal use the money to family and friends option (never the one for goods) send to my account which is my email address. If you need it send me a message."

Yessirree we're having fun now!

"never the one for goods" even though that what its for.
Wow. this reminds me of that sweet old lady that rips off Barney Fife on the Andy Griffith show.

Unpopular Tiki Opinion:

Your attitude about TC or "Tiki Elites" or California Tiki People or whatever, is just your projecting and cherry picking and internal interpretation to suit your mindset and has little to do with reality.

You see what you want to see.

Also, all collectors/collecting/hobbies are making book sellers rich. Not authors, but publishers and sellers... FACT:The Mai-Kai has made more money selling my book in the gift shop than I have made from writing it. But at least they give me free drinks when I'm there, so...

It's bamboo. Happy Thanksgiving!

If you look on my thread you can see the hats I made back in 2007.

extraverts were generally much more likely to overlook both grammar mix ups and typos, whereas introverts were more likely to judge the applicants negatively because of them.
And people who tested as being more conscientious but less open were more sensitive to typos, while those with less agreeable personalities got more upset by grammatical errors.
"Perhaps because less agreeable people are less tolerant of deviations from convention," the researchers wrote.

Scientists have found that people who constantly get bothered by grammatical errors online have "less agreeable" personalities than those who just let them slide.

Critical people tend to be highly self-critical. As hard as they might be on others, they are usually harder on themselves. They were often criticized as children, at least implicitly - the message was clear that, in important ways, they weren't quite good enough. Self-critical patterns tend to form in early childhood and by late adolescence mutate into chronic criticism of others.



I don't fit your formuli. Your state has everything categorized...indexed, TAGGED. People like you are the strength, people like me are the weakness. You control order and dictate and my kind...merely follow and obey. But something has gone wrong hasn't it? I don't fit, do I?

These are the nut cups I made, the first ones are replicas of an old 1920s style.
They would come in books that you would punch out the pattern and put them together yourself.

Those books full are very costly if you can find them.


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WOW, she just can't get enough of herself.

"You are really great and will go down in history, And I'm not just saying that because you crawl up my ass every time I post and your lips are brown from kissing my ass so much"

"I know the world's changing, Dr. Ralston. I've seen the old traditions die, one by one. Grace, dignity, feeling for the past"





Words of wit, to never forget.
Not mine.

I will only employ bounty hunters who work for money. Those who work for the pleasure of the hunt tend to do dumb things like even the odds to give the other guy a sporting chance.

First rule is.. The laws of Germany

"A small group of do-gooders being targeted by some elite narcissistic Internet personalities because they think our charitable fundraising is encroaching on their market for reselling thrift store purchases spins like silk."

One thing for sure you will not get here is some self entitled prick telling you what tiki is.
We don't do that 'round here.
Whether your tiki is brown or day-glo - nobody cares.
It's mellow and easy going.
What you like is what you like.
We just want to have fun, drink, raise money and preserve tiki culture.

Welcome to the FOM.

Push through it with repetition. Smother it with words. Deny the air around me. Pretend. Pretend with vigor. Believe that the breath is gone.

Passion flower withers in frost. Spent jackolanterns. Red eyes flash with resentment at what night regrets. Not the lanterns eyes. My own.

It hurts to remember it. I'll drive home soon.. Maybe another old hawk. Never finding the one who holds my head close and says, "I know.

Nothing that will make God come looking for good times. Nothing would impress the Buddha. Nothing that will make Ezekiel's wheels spin.

What would make them shut up and suddenly pay attention? Explosions across the street? Sex offered? New drugs? Art?

..That her late husband was waiting for her there. This is not oblivion to me. Total loss of self hood. No relatives. No friends. Blackness.

Sweet lovely death, I am waiting for your breath. Come sweet death..

Though rum and beer giggle and wink and keep me on the chase. No bed until I give up on them. Alcohol is such a slut. Crickets are ashamed.

Sorry I am late to your intro. I'm always late. Not even fashionably really, more or less habitually and with my pants unzipped and my tie undone.
Said the man who wears a skirt and never wears a tie.

My tree is empty save for me. The odd duck. No claws left. No sharp beak. Eagle eyes and a mind that wants to forget the freedom of flight.

I want the "big final". The test of my beliefs. Christ riding Nessie on a tidal wave into my bedroom to bring me my love and purpose


No, I just checked. There are still only twelve months in the year.

Wait.. 12?

Since when?

I just checked my 2057 calendar, and it still has 13 months: January, February, March, Lilp, June, July, Bruun, August, Rektombre, Seven, December, December II, and Muffin.

Oh.. Shit...

What year is this?

If they dropped a month, it better not be Muffin! I've got a vacation booked in Muffin! I'm gonna be in St. John the 3th through the 32st.

I can't make this stuff up.

Not everyone pays dues.

Bushido taught blind loyalty to the emperor.

"When the former British governor general of Hong Kong, Sir Mark Young, refused to salute him, Isihara tried to behead Young with his sword. Finally Japanese military officers took the sword away.

"I have lived in the United States and I know the might of their industrial complex. The United States is a sleeping giant and I am afraid that our attack has awakened it"
Chuichi Nagumo

"Nobody outside the Order of Asshole Buddies is as impressed with your good works as you folks seem to be, and since bragging about it seems to be just as important to you as doing them, well then why not spread a little benevolence here at home. You know, with the unfortunate Americans who have to put up with your ill-mannered asses. Your merit badge society is widely regarded as the Scientologists of tiki: the perpetual drunk uncles who are culturally (and I suspect genetically) incapable of enough self-awareness to know how embarrassing you are to your families. I suppose that's why you feel like you have to beat off here once a year—because you can't get your wives to do it. If you could figure out how to bake cookies, at least you'd be as useful as Girl Scouts. Have a great day! :)"
QUOTE White Devil

Commander Winfield Scott Cunningham


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Found on eBay, Not my auction.

Questions and answers about this item
Q: Hi If you do not happen to sell this tiki light I would like to offer you $100. for it. if you would find my offer to be fair I would buy it right away.
A: Ordinarily, I wouldn't even respond to such a lowball offer but you caught me on a good day. I would set it on fire and drive over it with my car before accepting your $100.
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Tigers, considered to be brave, cruel, forceful and terrifying, are the symbol of power and lordliness. In ancient times, people usually compared emperors or grandees with the tiger. Court officials often said that 'accompanying the emperor is just like being at the side of a tiger'. There are also many legends on hunting tigers dealing with struggling against evil might.

They are tolerant, staunch, valiant, and respected. They like challenges and speed and they are active and good at expressing themselves. They have strong sense of errantry, be frank and easy to win others' trust. In their middle age, their fate may be uneven, but afterwards will enjoy a bright prospect. Most women under the tiger sign are intelligent, faithful and virtuous.

Their shortcoming is to project themselves before others. They are given to deep thinking and capable of great sympathy, however, they can be short-tempered without interest with long-term endeavor. Sometimes, they come into conflict easily with the seniors and people in authority. Their hasty mind and decision may cause poor results. They are over confident and traitorous, which may result in unsuccessful communication and cooperation with others.

China Zodiac Animal - TigerHoroscope and Numerology Elements
Earthly Branch of Birth Year: yin
Wu Xing (The Five Elements): mu (wood)
Yin Yang: yang
Auspicious Directions: south, east, southeast
Lucky Colors: blue, grey, white, orange; Avoid: golden, silver, brown, black
Lucky Numbers: 1, 3, 4; Avoid: 6, 7, 8
Lucky Flowers: Cineraria
Zodiac Sign Compatibility - Best match: horse, dog; Avoid: snake, monkey

Celebrities Born in the Year of the Tiger
Ludwig van Beethoven, Marco Polo, Karl Marx, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Marilyn Monroe, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, Jim Carrey, Emmy Rossum, Jodie Foster, Alyson Hannigan, Ryan Phillippe, Mary Kate Olson, Ashley Olson, Joaquin Phoenix, Rosie O'Donnell, Whoopi Goldberg, Garth Brooks, Robert Pattinson, Penn Badgley, Penelope Cruz, Mischa Barton, Drake Bell, Judy Blume, Emily Bronte, Emily Dickinson, Isadora Duncan, Beatrix Potter, Emperor

As Paul Harvey would say...
And now you know....The Rest of the Story

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Coburn morgan
Kahiki book

the market house story
The Old Market House Inn Restaurant, situated across the street from the site of Zanesville's original farmers' market, preserves an era of pioneer Zanesville while offering a gourmet menu in an atmosphere of the bygone days.

Farmers drove their wagons filled with produce to the first small, one-story market built in 1814. The second market, built in 1832, supplied an increasing population with meat and vegetables. In 1863 a heavy snow crushed the roof, causing a tragic collapse of the bustling marketplace.

The third farmers' market opened in 1864. In consisted of a first floor for market and a second floor for city offices. Hundreds of farm wagons would be hitched to trees and posts for several blocks in all directions three days a week. Cabs and drays clattered up Market Street from two railroad stations. Hotels with large dining rooms eventually opened their doors to accommodate the increasing commerce in Zanesville. On such hotel and the Barnett which stood on the site of the present-day Old Market House Inn.

The third market place was destroyed by fire in 1912. After a long controversy, the present building was completed in 1919 and serves Zanesville for nearly thirty years. After World War II, area residents began to patronize supermarkets and in 1946 the final farmers' market was closed and the entire building converted to city offices.

In 1974 James L. Adornetto Purchased this building, then known as the Casino Restaurant, from Tony Saup. Mr. Adornetto engaged Coburn Morgan, a renowned restaurant designer from Columbus, Ohio. Using London, England's oldest operating riverside pub, the prospect of Whitby, as a model, they orchestrated an extensive nine-month renovation of the historic building. In October of 1974 the present Old Market House Inn opened its doors.

Jim Adornetto, born and raised in Zanesville, has been a successful restaurateur in the city for over 50 years. He opened his first restaurant, Adornetto's Pizzeria, at the age of 19. In 1994, Mr. Adornetto opened Giacomo's Bread & Deli in the building north of Adornetto's Pizzeria, featuring European hearth-style breads and Italian deli with made to order sandwiches and soups.
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has been serving Columbus' downtown diners for over 50 years.
During that time, the skyline has changed, but we're still doing things the
way they did on their first day of business.

So, when you hear someone say "they don't make em' like they used to"
tell them they're wrong - and then take them to.

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Sociopaths never answer facts; they always attack the messenger

Another very valuable red flag to recognize when trying to spot a sociopath is to see how they deal with attacks on their own integrity. If a sociopath is presented with a collection of facts, documents and evidence showing that he lied or deceived, he will refuse to address the evidence and, instead, attack the messenger!

If you really try to nail a sociopath down to answering a documented allegation, they will quickly turn on you, denounce you, and declare that you too are secretly plotting against them. Anyone who does not fall for the brainwashing of the sociopath is sooner or later kicked out of the circle and then wildly disparaged by the remaining members of the cult group.

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job (MOF)
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html##ixzz2ilFF1LVy

As Paul Harvey would say...
And now....The Rest of the Story
Vintage bronze-over brass, Large Rearing Horse Sculpture. Removed from the original Kahiki many years ago. Rubbing the ear or the legs of the horse was thought to bring good luck to the guest. Part of the magical mystery that the founders of the Kahiki instilled at its inception. A beautiful patina has settled on this vintage piece. You can feel the energy as you as you wonder at the many hands, both famous delegates and stars as well as countless local residences alike. Our research shows this to be similar to other such castings that are reportedly "from the Japanese Meiji Period."
Size: 56" tall to top of Mane and 27" wide.
Condition: Beautiful natural condition!

Antique carved-wood 'Chinese Elder sculpture with Child' holding a Chinese bat. In Ancient Chinese society, a bat was a symbol of Happiness and Longevity - this hand carved sculpture is big, over 4ft tall! All wood with painted and applied gesso (like the picture frames from the 1920's) and then gilded with a gold tone finish.
Size: 52 1/2" tall. Base is 18" x 16".
Condition: Wood has dry-split from natural occurring climate changes and age. Some paint loss, but its acceptable and supporting the age of this item, adding character. The bat the child is holding is also cracked - see picture.

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"You have no idea what the FOM is about and never did."
Quote Tikijoe Or Hi Fi Hijinx....

Here is Hi Fi Hijinx signature from another site.
Los genitales femeninos han sido siempre una fuente de fascinación or....
The female genitalia have always been a source of fascination

You are pure class Joe.
Your wife must be proud.


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I wanna bite the hand that feeds me. I wanna bite that hand so badly.

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"It is better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not deserve them"
Mark Twain

Send in the Sacramento Clowns
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Karst Sr. Robert William Karst, Sr., age 81, passed on February 12, 2013 at his home in the company of friends and family. Bob was preceded in death by his brothers Johnny, George, and daughter Kathy (Pabst) and is survived by his wife of 45 years, Mary; sister, Virginia (Hunter); sons, Robert Jr. and Patti, Tommy and Joyce, Danny (Mcquirt) and Patty; daughter, Sandy (Darrah); grandsons, Billy, Brandon, Shilo, Max, Sam, Alex, Patrick, Matthew; granddaughters, Britni, Stephanie; great-grandchildren, Logan, Lillie and Julian. Bob was raised in Columbus, Ohio and grew up in the restaurant business. The Karst Family owned and operated the Broad-Nel Restaurant and Bob learned from his father the joy of hospitality. A graduate of Gahanna High School and a veteran of the Korean War. Bob was fortunate to enjoy a very colorful life, a long time employee of the Kahiki and Wine Cellar restaurants in Columbus, Ohio. Bob enjoyed Elvis Presley, loved to play cards and was always there when you needed him. Bob retired in 1999 and spent the rest of his life in the company of his wife, Mary, his children and grandchildren. Friends are invited to attend a memorial on March 1, 2013 at EVANS FUNERAL HOME, 4171 E. Livingston Ave. Visitation from 3-4 p.m. Memorial service will be at 4 p.m. In lieu of flowers, the family has requested that you make a donation to Hospice or a charity of your choice . http://www.evansfuneralhome.net

Whatcha Talkin Bout Willis

ja/tf/dfb I think that is Jackasserie Tom Foolerie and dam fool boobrie.





From Slate: “Those who engage in public corrections of this sort often are looking to feel good about themselves, and, according to Benoît Monin, a psychology professor at Stanford University. “Another is to give myself evidence that other people’s language skills suck. So by putting down other people, I can feel better about myself.”

I had it a hold and changed it even, the fear of you is intimidating.

You know it has been said that you don't give grammar/spelling beat downs to people you know or like.

Bai and Wendy are others who get off without a "ticket"
People might start calling you a "dirty cop"

My wife and I have met you and I told them you are not a bully in person and are kinda quite and nice when we met.

I looked on the internet and found this and t is a great article that in ways explains this Grammar cop thing.

"From Slate: “Those who engage in public corrections of this sort often are looking to feel good about themselves, and, according to Benoît Monin, a psychology professor at Stanford University. “Another is to give myself evidence that other people’s language skills suck. So by putting down other people, I can feel better about myself.”


There was this girl that I went to school with, and I saw her at a bar one night, well she saw me really and she asked me to dance, I forgot who she was I had no idea.
But I was so scared that I just did not say anything much at all let alone ask who she was and blow it.
She was much prettier than she was in school than I remember her being.
After some time I found out it was Lori Parrish nothing ever happened more than that dance.
Years latter I found out she had married and had kids, I found this out because she died of breast cancer in her late 30s, she was gone, so sad.
THEN if that was not bad enough I found out that her sister had been killed, murdered by someone!
What mother deserves that chain of events?

Andy dated a twin and one was a bit wild and the one he dated was more tame Michel Hannon and Danell.
Well Andys girlfriend got married years latter, not to Andy and she was found dead in her living room naked.
She had been doing drugs with some guy and her husband came home and found her the guy ran off with their car.
Well her twin sister died a year later, I don't know what of but how odd.

Every minute someone leaves this world behind.
We are all in “the line” without knowing it.
We never know how many people are before us.
We can not move to the back of the line.
We can not step out of the line.
We can not avoid the line.
So while we wait in line -
Make moments count.
Make priorities.
Make the time.
Make your gifts known.
Make a nobody feel like a somebody.
Make your voice heard.
Make the small things big.
Make someone smile.
Make the change.
Make love.
Make up.
Make peace.
Make sure to tell your people they are loved.
Make sure to have no regrets.

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Good one tikigreg, you got it!
So this is what you are talking about.
I did that too, was giving all a chance to explain all of these oddities as
maybe there was/is a good explanation.

On 2014-08-04 09:51, Chip and Andy wrote:
Sort of an answer... I asked if they are new copies or old.

The ebay seller wrigh_owe (1 ) or
Not really sure how one can tell. They look original to me and appear to be complete. The details are crisp and easy to read ( I included a couple of pictures of pages to show the level of detail). There are some signs of wear on the edges....Without a doubt they have been well taken care of.

So now the seller says there is no way to tell if this is a copy?
BUT the thing has a copy date on it, and was copied by the sellers?
Man he's an Architect should be better than most at reading this.


"It's not FOM, John."
"But something is definitely odd about this one in numerous ways."

So then at the bottom of the page Historical Integrity, LLC webpage we see bourbontiki's name.
I knew I saw that face before, in fact he is not only in the FOM but he is Honui Moai that means
high rank in the FOM.
So people who said they don't know him do know him, very well.
And if he's in the FOM and had these he would have showed them to everyone, I'll bet they are
in Jeff's book, they should be as they are cool.

"But something is definitely odd about this one in numerous ways."
You can say that again.

The thing is all ya had to do is come on and say here's what's up with this and that.
There could be a good explanation for all of these odd findings.
Palm Pilot looks to be a shill, But then he stopped posting when questions came up.

And ya know the guy selling this is watching is signed up on TC, man just clear things up that would have been the best thing really.

These are cool, too bad ya don't print off 50 and sell em for a bit less.
1.Kiss the boss’s ass.

2.Make enemies. You can learn from them.

3.Conceal your intentions.

4.Speak cryptically.

5.Defend your reputation; destroy those who challenge it.

6.Be an attention seeker.

7.Use other people to do things for you and take the credit.

8.Bait people.

9.Don’t analyze, act.

10.People who are hurt are like contagious parasites.

11.Make people depend on you.

12.Be “selectively honest”, disarm your “victim” with generosity.

13.People have no sense of mercy or thankfulness.

14.Pretend to be someone’s friend while gathering information on them.

15.Destroy people, annihilate them. Ruin their lives.

16.Play hookie to make people “want” you.

17.Engage in interpersonal intimidation.

18.Be one in the crowd; use the crowd to shield you from your enemies.

19.Don’t screw over the wrong person.

20.Be non-committal.

21.Pretend to be dumb, so they won’t suspect.

22.Surrender, to stab your enemy in the back.

23.Use every resource you have to defeat an enemy.

24.Flatter people, yield to your boss, and be cruel to those under you.
25.Don’t abide by the social contract. Ally yourself only to yourself. Redefine this self to get as much attention as possible.

26.Keep your hands clean: erase any knowledge others have of you messing things up. Never admit to your mistakes. Instead, scapegoat other people.

27.Develop a God complex. Feed people what they want to hear and make them follow you.

28.Be bold in all of your actions.

29.Plan out every little thing.

30.Make your accomplishments seem effortless. Also, never let anyone know how you did them.

31.Control people’s options.

32.Feed people the lies they want to hear.

33.Find out everyone’s button, save this information, and push it accordingly.

34.Act like a member of royalty.

35.Master timing.

36.Show contempt for things (and people) you cannot have. By showing you are upset, you are admitting “weakness”.

37.Create a lot of spectacles.

38.Behave like other people as a mask.

39.Use other people’s emotions; play with them.

40.Free things are dangerous. Instead, pay for everything yourself and make sure people see it.

41.Don’t follow in anyone’s footsteps.

42.Attack someone that bothers you. Don’t bother negotiating or understanding them. Just attack them so they shut up and your reputation remains intact.

43.Seduce people by playing with their emotions.

44.Mirror people so they get annoyed and humiliated.

45.Preach “change” and other vague promises, but never act too much on them.

46.Pretend to mess up once in a while. People will see that you’re not a sociopath after all.

47.Achieve in moderation.

48.Be formless. Form, order, routine equals predictability. And those watchful guys following you over your shoulder all this time will spot that and destroy you.

Capone milked his good works for all the favorable publicity they were worth. He came down and walked among the men, the wretched of the earth, offering a handshake, a hearty smile, and words of encouragement from the great Al Capone. During November and December.
But the problem is, at least the legend goes, the majority of the food he was serving was stolen or "forced" hand outs from local and regional grocers and wholesalers.

This new Donald mug reminds me of this thread about the Obama mug.
Sorry to bring up these political names on this site as we all know that is
not allowed but am just referring to a thread that broke that rule.

That thread was locked so as to stop the offensive stuff going on there.

Is a severed Donald Jr mug next?

See it here...
http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=44263&forum=12&hilite=obama mug

It’s not the mug that pisses me off as much as the hypocrisy that this one is ok and the Obama one is not.
Or is it the poster breaking the no politics rule that makes it ok?

This is not just hey here's a mug of Trump that would have been borderline bad it is the comments that also came with the post.

"lunavideogames in the morning I will print out all the photos that you all have sent to me and take a last look at the mug. I will match his fake tan and pale under eye skin when he is glazed. Dan suggested that I carve "Make America Hate Again" on the bottom."
"I can suggest a few things to go into it... none would be appropriate to list here."

Either way nobody should be ok with this type of double standard here.
This thread topic will spiral down even more before it gets better.

These are not my rules, TC made them up.
We get it, you don't like Trump, that other guy does not like Obama.

AND that would be great on Politico Central.

It's not like they are going to lock your thread.
Not enough to fight about politics on Facebook so they bring the fight here.

"lunavideogames in the morning I will print out all the photos that you all have sent to me and take a last look at the mug. I will match his fake tan and pale under eye skin when he is glazed. Dan suggested that I carve "Make America Hate Again" on the bottom."

"I can suggest a few things to go into it... none would be appropriate to list here."

"We have all done our part to remove the material that offended you. Philot will too as soon as he has read my message. I request that you also remove your posts from my thread since they will no longer be needed. I have learned that my thread is not just for myself and my friends, lesson learned."

[ Edited by: tikiskip 2019-02-09 06:29 ]

GROG posted on Thu, May 29, 2014 10:44 AM

On 2014-02-17 17:23, tikiskip wrote:
tikiskip: Wow. 10:42:06
GROG: (Hope you liked that Whizzer.) 08:50:19
GROG: Or Skippy. 08:47:31
GROG: Thanks Skipper. 08:47:00
tikiskip: Never had a nickname myself. But Scooter is a reference to speed (as in fast) I think. Tiki on. 20:51:24
[ Edited by: tikiskip 2014-05-21 12:51 ]

What was wrong with that? GROG thought it was funny that we were talking about nicknames and our screen names are basically nicknames. Tiki people I see out in public often call me GROG, so it's basically a nickname.

[ Edited by: GROG 2014-05-29 10:45 ]


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An authentic throwback item is crab rangoon ($6) — fried crisp twists of the “skins” used to make spring rolls. The filling is cream cheese with crab and a garlic- or onion-powder flavor. It is a trip down memory lane that makes us appreciate the present.

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Kahiki Redux
November 15th, 2014

“This collection of poems, from a writer who never saw the Kahiki in person, is a literary Pupu Platter brimming with playfulness, imagination, and reverence.”

Nathalie Wright, Architectural Historian; Columbus, Ohio

For over forty years, it was the largest freestanding Polynesian restaurant in the country and the site where generations of Columbusites relished Tiki culture. As a local poet and former journalist who relocated to Columbus, I became obsessed with learning about the late great Kahiki Supper Club that was razed over ten years ago after being placed on the National Historic Register. The result of my research and many interviews is Kahiki Redux, a poetry collectionin which I tried to capture the nuances of this pop-culture icon that for decades brought delight and pride to the Columbus cultural landscape. If you’d like to order a copy, please mail a cashier’s check or money order for $15.00 (includes postage) to: 897 Plum Ridge; Columbus, Ohio 43213. Please address the check to Rikki Santer. Thanks for your support.


from The Columbus Dispatch; Sunday June 17, 2012
“Poems carry a tiki torch for Kahiki” by columnist Joe Blundo

One of the most grievous crimes ever committed against Columbus architecture was the demolition of the Kahiki in 2000.
The restaurant was shaped like a giant war canoe, had a cultlike corps of devotees and featured flaming drinks, canned thunder and thatched huts. After standing at 3583 E. Broad St. for almost 40 years, it was torn down to make way for a Walgreens pharmacy.
But the memory lives. Its artifacts are auctioned on eBay, and websites recall its splendors. And now a collection of Kahiki poems has been published.
Kahiki Redux by Rikki Santer manages to evoke the appearance and ambience of the place despite the fact that the author has never been inside it.

The donation was raised at the Order's largest event, Ohana Luau at the Lake, and includes event proceeds, donations from event sponsors, money raised at a dunk tank, a silent auction, the now infamous Mystery Bowl Auction which has become a signature part of the event and sales of the limited edition Music for Moai music album. For more information about the Order, the event, and the donation please visit us at http://www.fraternalorderofmoai.org/news/index.php/2011/01/05/fom-sends-2010-donation-to-eif

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From: Just up the road from Chef Shangri-La
Posted: 2011-08-30 1:37 pm Permalink

Ok folks just to clarify things...

There's a very obvious reason for not being able to accomodate folks dropping in along the way...

With the exception of Hala Kahiki, these are all small venues and only hold around a hundred or so people, so all you have to do is be able to add. Two busses @ 53 people each = 106 Tikiphiles accending on these places at one time, I think ya'll can grasp that right?

As far as Sunday's festivities at the Chef, again there will be approximately 106 people there for the duration of the afternoon. The Chef does hold more people, so there will probably be limited seating available as we get closer to the big weekend. Hope this helps put thing in perspective.

Edited to reflect that ticket price does not include the mug, that's a separate purchase!

BaMbOoLoDgE...where the South Pacific meets the Great White North!

[ Edited by: BambooLodge 2011-08-30 13:59 ]

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“. . . At the Outrigger Bar, decked in the robes of our birthdays, anniversaries or lusty prom promises, we suck Pupu Platter goo from our Occidental nails,” she writes in Remembering the Kahiki.

In “Landscape,” she describes carloads of tourists arriving “to lose themselves inside this romantic cocoon that serves up foreign paradise in pineapple carcasses and caricature tumblers.”

Santer, who teaches film studies and English at Upper Arlington High School, moved to central Ohio from Baltimore not long before the Kahiki was demolished. It had already given way to Walgreens when she became interested in it after she and her husband bought a house featuring a Polynesian room.
The room — full of lava rock, tortoiseshell light fixtures and animal-print fabrics — was designed by Coburn Morgan, who was also responsible for the Kahiki’s hyper-Polynesian decor.
Her interest stimulated, Santer began researching the restaurant. She interviewed workers, patrons and the two businessmen who built it: Bill Sapp and Lee Henry. They sold their interests in the restaurant in 1979. (Henry called Santer’s book “terrific.”)
Acknowledging their work is one of the reasons she wrote the book, Santer said.
“My motivation is just to get a memory book into people’s hands. I was so shocked that this icon was torn down. We’re in this bicentennial year, and Bill and Lee are still alive, in their 80s, and they haven’t been recognized formally.”

The book, which is available through Amazon Books or through her website at rikkisanter.com, contains eight poems, Kahiki artwork and a forward by architectural historian Nathalie Wright. She submitted the application that got the restaurant listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1997, a distinction that couldn’t save it.

The last poem, “Kahiki in the Museum,” acknowledges as much, envisioning what would be in a Kahiki historical exhibit: “Lipstick-stained napkins and bite-marked straws from virgin lips; a pyramid of etched glassware; a plastic volcano erupting in gleeful streams of snapshots that incriminate with outdated fashion.”

This might not be the end of Kahiki literature. Santer said she and Wright hope to produce a full-scale history of the place.
Said Santer: “I have great affection for that restaurant.”

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Post subject: Re: Critiki - Tiki Drink Clarification or Tikilitism!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:13 am
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One thing for sure you will not get here is some self entitled prick telling you what tiki is.
We don't do that 'round here.
Whether your tiki is brown or day-glo - nobody cares.
It's mellow and easy going.
What you like is what you like.
We just want to have fun, drink, raise money and preserve tiki culture.

Welcome to the FOM.

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Post subject: Re: Critiki - Tiki Drink Clarification or Tikilitism!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:21 pm
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Personally, I bristle at the tiki elitist/purists & the holy than thou attitude that comes with it. It's a whole "my tiki is better than your tiki" thing & that has always rubbed me (&, I think, FOMmers, in general) the wrong way. It's TIKI, for cripes sake, which is made-up in the first place. And if you come to my home tiki bar, and I happen to whip-up a pain killer for you, talking about how it's not a tiki drink is going to get that tasty painkiller taken out of your hand & your ass on the curb. Just sayin'....


Henry and Sapp went
researching, traveling west to
visit Don the Beachcomber in Los
Angeles, then to San Francisco to
check out Trader Vic’s. In 1957, Lee
and their chief designer headed to
the newly opened Mai Kai in Fort
Lauderdale, where—posing as
tourists—they took snapshots and
pocketed menus.

“One of the luckiest places as a young man in Ohio during the
‘60s was to be sitting across from a beautiful girl at the Kahiki,” writes
John Fraim, Lee Henry’s nephew, and an author of a forthcoming
book about the Kahiki. “Both participants [were] in some modern
type of alchemical reunion it seemed. But a few of the drinks at the
Kahiki in those years would do this to you.”
Ah, yes—the drinks.


What was the goings on in Feb 22 1961 first day of the Kahiki?

February 20, 1961 (Monday)[edit]
Jerry Garcia, an 18-year old drifter who had been discharged from the U.S. Army, survived a car accident in Palo Alto, California. He would later describe the event as "the slingshot for the rest of my life"."Before then I was always living at less than capacity," he would write later. "Then I got serious." Garcia would go on to found the Grateful Dead.[30]
Born: Imogen Stubbs, British actress, in Newcastle upon Tyne
Died: Percy Grainger, 78, Australian composer; and Romany Marie, 75, American restaurateur and bohemian personality

On February 20th, 1961, the closest available weather station to Columbus, OH (COLUMBUS MUNICIPAL ARPT, OH), reported the following conditions:
High Temp: 37.9°F *
Low Temp: 21.9°F *
Average Temp: 30.2°F ( 24 )
Dewpoint: 23.4°F ( 24 )
Sea Level Pressure: 1030.8 mb ( 24 )
Station Pressure: 999.1 mb ( 24 )
Visibility: 9 miles ( 24 )
Wind Speed: 2.7 knots ( 24 )
Max Wind Speed: 8.9 knots
Max Wind Gust: n/a
Precipitation Amount: 0 inches I
Snow Depth: n/a
Observations: n/a

Most electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels in power stations. Coal, oil and natural gas are burned in furnaces to heat up water. The boiling water makes steam which pushes the gigantic blades of a turbine to produce electricity.

Frankoma T3S War God tiki mug in brown satin glaze. No cracks, chips, crazing or repairs. The design was originally created for the Club Trade Winds tiki bar in Tulsa, Ok and later added to the line of pieces sold to the public.
Acquaint yourself with the differences between Ada clay, Sapulpa clay, and post-1980 Sapulpa clay. Learn to recognize specific glaze colors. Unravel the









My art is on facebook. I no longer share stuff to the group tiki pages because the harassment was of the charts. This past year brought alot of deliberate bullshit from people in the tiki scene to discredit me for not willingly playing the stoopid social games. It may seem like I've tanked my audience but what Im doing is taking tiki beyond the myopic scene, and I'm the only artist who has the kind of work that can do it. or the inclination to do so. After this last weekends opening at la luz and the book release on tiki art I was excluded from. I had to make a statement about it.

"I promised I wouldn't talk about this anymore but A lot of misdirected outrage is coming my way about being left out of the La Luz show and the new book on tiki art. So I kinda have to make a statement .
I can't speak on why I was excluded because no one has given me a believable answer. In fact 95% of anyone who thinks they're important in the microcosm of tiki has remained silent on the whole thing. It's a pretty big deal for me to be left out after nearly 30 yrs of making exclusively tiki art. I'm long over it. I've exited tiki as a scene because it doesn't support or respect my contributions. Its the individual people I've bonded with and the fans that find me on their own that actually support me. I am more driven than ever to execute my vision of tiki modern. I'm not quitting my art,I'm skirting what's kept me down. So,,,, if you are just now catching on that I was excluded-direct your comments towards the ones who excluded me. I can't answer for them. I'm still doing me - a whole lot of phony bullshit free. And I totally plan on owning it." #dawnfrasierartist

My zine with my missing scene history will be available in a couple of weeks in my etsy shop. it chronicles me being a tiki artist since before there was a scene through my recent exit and all the weird backhanded disrespecful bullshit things that have been pulled on me by men in tiki that added up to where I'm at now. Done with being treated second class. Im still a tiki artist I just jumped out of the over crowded pee filled pool.

heres where to find me -
my art page - https://www.facebook.com/bamboogroveofwestwood/

my Tiki Modern decor page

my personal page

my insragram



In spite of all of the shit I've taken in this scene thats led me to defend myself and wad up all the man panties by calling out the horrible treatment- Im still working full time as a tiki artist I just do much bigger projects instead of selling myself all the time. My Moodxotica paintings are headed to Hawaii and Australia this yr, my studio made rugs RUGXOTICA will be in Dwell and Atomic Ranch.
Im launching a new line - Sophista-tiki Modern Home
and all sales of my zine are funding my coffee table book of my unique tiki modern aesthetic.

IMO much better than making the perpetual vending circuit . I never got the appeal of that as an artist.
Im still accessible, I still have great friends I've made in the scene. Ive also seen how phony many of the people are who were there for me until I didnt serve a stepping stone purpose for them any longer because I've gone rogue( eye roll). Honestly I cant disappear completely from tiki because of the connections I still have and the future fans I will have long after the dust settles from the whole shit show of me trying to fit in with the clique. I'm just not playing the game that never suited me in the first place. If you arn't an artist at my level you really have no idea and the experience has been singular.
My whole scene is better now than its ever been I've upped my game in every aspect you can imagine. paid off my house, honed my skills, maintained a high level of integrity, and I look frkn amazing for 51.
Onward and upward.
Thanks to the people who have always been in my corner, stuck with me through all of the bullshit that stressed me out to the point I couldn't take it anymore and will continue to be there as I take my tiki art out of the confines of the tiki scenes suffocating status quo.

If you look at the Kahiki salt and pepper shakers they were in the same style of the Hoffman pottery moai mug made for the Kahiki.
Did Kahiki request these be made to match these S and P shakers?
What came first the Mug or the Shakers?

The salt and Pepper shakers were not made by Hoffman but by OMC as we can see by the stickers on the bottom of the shakers.

Kahiki salt and pepper shakers had many different markings on the bottom as well.

So here is yet another Hoffman marking, this one is very early I would guess.
Image from eBay and sold high to the one who's name shall not be spoken.

Man! the Kahiki ghosts have come through again!
I can't make this stuff up, went to eBay to lift some photos for this question and find this sale for a Hoffman mug.
But it may put a date on the mug AND markings if you believe this seller, I do.
Not my sale and I don't know this person.

Ebay sale this mug had Ceramics by Hoffman...

This mug dates to March, 1963, when we were living in Columbus and visiting relatives took us out to dinner to celebrate the birth of our son. I saved it because it was such a big deal then for us to eat out. There is some unpainted area along the bottom, due to the manufacturing process. It measures 6 5/8" tall.

My question to her Via eBay.....
Your previous message
Hello nice mug you have, can you help me date these mugs.
Are you sure this came from the Kahiki in March 1963.
These mugs have many different markings and this could help date them.

Thank you so much for your help, I too have one of these mugs.
And I have one of the BIG moai statues front the front of the building.

Good luck on your sale.

Her reply....
Hello, Yes, it was definitely from March of 1963, the only time I was ever there- out of town relatives took us out to dinner to celebrate the birth of one of our sons- he was just shy of 2 weeks old and was born 3-6-63. I saved the mug and napkin because it was such a big deal then to go out, plus they were "cool"!!! We only lived in Columbus a short time, we moved to Indianapolis soon after and have never been back. Best Regards, Sue

Here are some other table style lights...

The coconut shell lamp.
These were the souvenirs you would buy way back when in Hawaii.
Once saw a postcard with many of these on a table on the side of the road in Hawaii for sale, am kinda surprised they are not more popular in the new tiki bars I see.

Columbus underground January 18, 2019 3:21 pm
Grand open date Feb 5th after weeks of "soft openings"

"Ultimately, Howe says they’re aiming for an aesthetic that hovers somewhere between the kitsch of early tiki and more streamlined modernity. "

"Bamboo, tiki masks, and vibrant colored lighting are all a given, but the rest will be an evolution, he says."

Tue Feb 5th 2019
Ryan Vasu-sarver doesn't recommend Huli Huli Powell.
18 hrs ·
limited menu high prices and bad service. it is to bad great look
Slow service
Dustin Sun Thanks Ryan for your feedback.. We apologize on the slow service as we get more efficient on delivering exceptional service. Thank you for stopping in and we hope to see you soon.

Damn dude already?

The drinks were decent & the small plates & appetizers were ok, but TOTALLY not worth the price. I get the serving size argument, but flavor has to be there as well.
They may need to work on their entry area, a better, more organized process welcoming patrons.
Bathrooms were clean & the bartenders were nice & funny.
They mini size fireplaces randomly placed on bare walls, may need to find a new use, weird.
We went once to experience it since it was right around the corner, but, I think that will be our only experience.

A few days after they opened.
Here's more, Read your damn reviews!

Gary Francis Stopped by today....very very disappointing.....light pours on drinks and service was barely OK....hope things improve quickly.....

I'm giving two stars for cuteness. Overpriced drinks $10-$14 for tropical punch that doesn't pack one. We had the shrimp skewers, pork bao, side salad and dumplings. Nothing special about anything. A "one and done" for me.

We enjoyed the vibe of this lounge and the decor added to the tiki hut experience. There is limited parking out back off Liberty. It is more of a bar than a grill, so if you are looking for more of a food selection you may be disappointed. I got one of the frozen drinks on the menu - the Blue Hawaii. At $11 it was a bit pricey. It had a nice flavor and reminded me of a tropical vacation with its coconut and pineapple flavors. For our "meal" we shared 4 appetizer-sized plates: chicken wings (2 per plate for $7), bao buns (2 per plate for $9), dumplings (4 for $7), and shrimp skewers (2 for $9). The food was nothing remarkable - wings were overly sauced but large, bao meat was dry, dumplings reheated from a bag, and shrimp though tasty were underdone. It is nice to have options in downtown Powell, but I doubt I will be back.

brittany foister
Local Guide · 10 reviews
2 weeks ago- 4/4/2019
Service was horrible. Waited about 15 mins for someone to come to our table and they only came because the four of us were starring them down. (Wasn’t even a busy night) food was okay. Had limited drink options. The decor was cute.


Huli Huli is purely an attitude place, with glitzy interior and fancy (expensive - like $14) tiki drinks. Some small plates, none of them very good in our one visit by a group of 10. Maybe the idea is a Night Club? But nothing to go with that kind of target.Lots of young women there, which might be a draw for some, but hard to see what they offer for a traditional crowd in the way of food or drink at reasonable prices. The owner was there and came around briefly, but didn’t really ask anything that could have been useful for him. Just perfunctory, check off a box of walking by.

I put this here so as not to forget how this what I call tiki lite bar will do over the years.
It has had LOTS of press the first week and even before it opened, they were very smart and had all the press type people and even that "expert" Motz come in for the free parties
before they opened.

This place is not really tiki to me I feel they put just enough tiki in the joint to be able to sell very expensive tiki drinks, tried to sell them old tiki stuff to no avail.

Get the feeling tiki peeps here in Columbus say good things about this place as it helps them in that they can go there and promote the tiki things the locals sell.

It looks like a Starbucks with a few Good tiki items and lots of Indonesian tikis, AND the TC type folks that have been there never show the Indonesian tikis in the photos of the place.
THEY know the Indonesian tikis suck so even they hide them by not photographing them.
When I saw these Indonesian tikis in the place before they opened they said "somebody else brought those in we are not going to use those" after I grimaced.

"We’re trying to find the right stuff that fits without being cheesy,” manager Nate Howe said." 2/9/2019

Here is s shell lamp.
These could also be called TV lamps as they were said to help your eyes if watching TV in the dark.
These too were sold as souvenirs way back when in Hawaii.

On 2018-03-02 01:58, (name deleted) wrote:
I don't think he is trying to be funny at all. He made the comment about there no longer being flame wars anymore but instead people are now being passive-aggressive, which is what I think he is doing.

More salt and pepper markings...




Great points here!
AND people say they don’t have anything to add to TC well everybody eats and many drink, so you can add to this thread right here.
It could help a misguided new tiki bar find their way.

“I think the question isn't "can you taste it," but rather "can you taste its absence"?”

See now that’s a good point, but then that’s what I meant by a good blend in your ingredients.
Soung asked me what I put in my ham glaze and after I told him he said to add a small bit of Garlic powder, GARLIC POWDER!
In ginger ale, lemon, and candy ginger with a bit of Cayenne pepper Now Garlic powder too.

I do it that way every time now, too much Garlic powder and your FU%k*d, if you taste it you failed.

“generally speaking, sit down for a meal and by the end of it suss out exactly what was used”

I’m not that good at that but ok.
It’s best when you have a hard time knowing what is in something, you would have a hard time knowing garlic was in my ham glaze.

And I do put mint and lime in my Mai Tais almost every time.
We grow tons of mint just for that, I bet it may be hard for a commercial tiki bar to get and keep mint in the place on a day to day basis.
The Tropical Bistro had mint in every Mai Tai I ever got there, and they did not say they were some great fancy place.

“Where most of the newer tiki bars fall short for me is the hedging of bets”

You know I hate the word cultural appropriation, BUT this is kinda how I feel about newer tiki lite bars.
They steal our fake version of a Polynesian place and water it down misrepresenting it to others who then say “we went to a tiki bar”
I think it is so they can serve handcrafted cool drinks at high prices and become a tiki star Mixologist.

The newer tiki lite bars make the real tiki bar the bad guy in this way kinda.
I told a person to a newer tiki lite and she said nothing about it when we left, guess I shoulda asked her.
But I told her to go to La Marianna when they went to Hawaii and they called me! FROM La Marianna! they LOVED it, there FRIENDS loved it! and these were not tiki people.

THAT"S the difference.
Har, they got me a La Marianna T-shirt too.

Maybe the tiki bar vision TCers have would not fly with the normal everyday customer these days.

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Everybody should have this book!


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On 2019-07-07 17:38, Hamo wrote:
And the guy who made the biggest contribution to "discovering", seeking out, and cataloging the art form gets a large part in defining "Tiki."

Why? With all due respect to Sven, he didn't invent it, he doesn't own it, he didn't trademark it. Documenting something doesn't give you rights over it. That's not even how culture works. Nobody owns Tiki. And that's how it needs to be if you actually want Tiki to be a vibrant, alive, thriving culture. Not everyone's idea of fun is sitting around online rehashing the same topics about the same bars that closed before they were even born.

The dumb thing is that we still need the Tiki "purists" because they're the ones keeping the culture centred. But what we don't need are gatekeepers. Trying to gatekeep Tiki is only going to result in people ignoring you and doing their own thing anyways.


Oh, and as for the claim that "Tiki can be anything" people are more tolerant than "Tiki purists"; if that were true, would there have even been a shit storm to begin with?

As I already said, they're chill until they feel judged, then they feel forced to defend themselves and that's how the shitstorms happen. My favourite shitstorm so far was someone stampeding in and saying that you're not allowed to wear fezzes or pith helmets because they're stupid and anyone who wears them are stupid and women in the Tiki scene are basically whores. Thanks Tiki puritans!

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On 2019-07-07 10:48, tikiskip wrote:
I did see that in your tiki guide? Party City is not listed, not a joke, if you want to include all forms of tiki then party city should be in there.

It is, right near the centre, as "clown tiki". The difference between Party City and Sven's pie-chart of Tiki with circles and arrows and percentages is quality, not kind.


But see there is a line in the land of Tikicentral and you can find out about that line in The Book of Tiki as noted by the people that started Tikicentral in the guidelines to the site they started.

You're shifting the goalposts. We were talking about Tiki culture in general, not the specific rules of Tiki Central.

But hey, duly noted. If that's going to be your attitude, however, don't turn around and say asinine stuff like "Tikicentral has been too relaxed in letting just any old crap pass as tiki to me, it might be the whole chill tiki thing that is killing TC." Over the past year or so, I've been meeting quite a few people online and in real life who used to come here. The most consistent reason I've heard for why they don't anymore is they just don't have time for the drama and being judged by Tiki puritans on what is supposed to be their fun escapist hobby. This thread is a perfect example: you asked what people look for in a Tiki bar, and every time someone responds you write two or three long replies explaining why they're wrong. Like, dude, I know that bars need to sell drinks and food to make money, I don't need multiple lengthy replies explaining why I'm wrong because what I look for most is atmosphere and novelty. I know you're just seeing an opportunity to talk at length about something you love. I get that and I appreciate that, but seriously... dude... That's part of why I ducked out of this thread and have become ambivalent to TC in general.

So anyways, people are doing exactly what you suggest: "they should start a Hey were all chill tiki site and have guidelines for their site that include what they want and don't want on their site." They're doing that. Nobody's got time for the fun police.

Speaking from my personal experience, where genuinely loving something places you when it goes mainstream is that it gives a base from which to assess quality. As a Goth I can criticize Hot Topic not merely for it's existance, but because they sell ugly clothes and bad music. As a Steampunk fan, I can criticize the LXG movie not simply because it exists, but because it was a bad movie and a travesty of the comic. Far be it from me to consider

“Why? With all due respect to Sven, he didn't invent it, he doesn't own it”
In many areas people are seen as authoritative figures or maybe experts on a subject and the way you get this title is to study that subject, maybe write a book or even teach the subject, Sven has done all three so he’s one of the authoritative figures that often define tiki.

Also I have not talked to Sven, I do not say this with any other motives other than I believe Sven to be a authoritative figure.
In fact I think I would do better and maybe have gotten more press with a different authoritative figure than Sven as I don’t think he really likes me all that well.

Best I can tell is your tiki drinks are....
"My wife likes two parts 7-Up or Sprite, one part orange juice, and a splash of peach schnapps. For pina coladas, we use a mix, with "I'm Bananas Over You" Original Bartenders Cocktail in place of rum, and a splash of Amarula."

"As a Goth I can criticize Hot Topic not merely for it's existance, but because they sell ugly clothes and bad music. As a Steampunk fan, I can criticize the LXG movie not simply because it exists, but because it was a bad movie and a travesty of the comic."

So you get to label judge and Be the fun police when it's Goth?

What is Goth? is it Emo and vampire with some punk mixed in?
Where do you buy the good Goth clothes and is there an authoritative figure or definition of that style.

Was into punk in the late 70s and we just wore any old clothes.

"As a Steampunk fan, I can criticize the LXG movie not simply because it exists."

Damn more fun police, You.

"You're shifting the goalposts. We were talking about Tiki culture in general, not the specific rules of Tiki Central"

I was talking about a guide made by Sven posted on TC By Hammo.

You are talking about "tiki?" and anything that will whip up $hit.

I do have to say that I like the fact that you have your opinions and make them known and hopefully you me or others can come up with our own ideas of what tiki is or is not.

It's a lot better than sitting back and not saying a damn thing.

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"I'm not being the cool kid and hating first before I even see it. I don't hate it."

Wait, that's a cool kid move?
Damn, that's my modus operandi and they would never let me in the cool kid club.

For me it's just being honest as to what I like.
People can like what they want.
Some get so bent when I say "for me a goat with a fez is not tiki"

If you think goats with a fez are tiki great, tattoo it on your ass even.

The new bars restaurants lack the history, the people (the most important part) ghosts of the past you can feel when you go in the place.
When I was taping the Kahiki when they were tearing it down the inside striped, hole in the roof sun shinning in the bare room, you could feel a odd vibe that I would say were the many ghosts/memories call it what you will but you could feel it.

Often wondered if I was the last person in the Kahiki as they did not know I was in there and an hour later it was down.
They tore it down fast as they did not want some nut like me chaining himself to the building.

Sorry Swizz I said Kahiki again.

BUT there are a few good new place yet to live and make their own history.
The hard part is the class of people that made and went to these great places are gone and we are left with some goofs that just can't live up to the cool club of days gone by.

Just being honest as to what you like is WAY harder and has way less rewards than being true to how you see things.

Can't trust a guy who likes everybody and likes everything as he is lying to himself, so a lie to you is that much more easy.

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Testing one, two, three, booboobadoo 041

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"Haaa ha ha ha ha! You start right off with something controversial, don't'cha! This is gonna be fun! Welcome to Aloha-Land!"

Unless that photo is fake it's not controversial it's history and fact and even science, I thought that science was to gather all the facts and history on a topic and sift through them to come up with a conclusion.

The thing I find to be controversial is the way they hide any bad things related to electric cars. Unless your Elon Musk and piss off some people then all the sudden your autonomous driving tec does not work and they want to highlight that.

If we had just half of America driving electric cars right now it would be mayhem the electric grid would shut down and we would not be able to use electricity unless they let us

Why do you think we all got those new meters that they can shut off remotely whenever they want?

At this time it won't work, we are not at all ready for all electric cars.

And while we build more wind solar and green energy China is building more coal fired plants, so can we off set China and Russia and India plus Iran's inaction.

I don't think we can.

Welcome TIKIGIKI great post I did not know of that before.

Test Track - The Dangers of Tesla's Full Self-Driving Software https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHIgawTRCv8

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Here is a bit of an update on the Kahiki Moai this is the one from the left as you faced the Kahiki front door.

The concrete had to be taken off as it was all falling off, the wires that held it on were rusting to a point Where they were not holding on the screen that held the concrete on the rebar.

Somebody had said you could have as least covered it to protect it but that would not have kept the condensation and freezing snow and other weather from getting to it anyway.

The damage was bit more noticeable after an author for the Kahiki book Myers I think it was put her foot through the eye area of the statue I should have not told them to go ahead and get on it for pictures. Hey, I guess this makes them the last people to be on top of the old Moai before the tear down.

I joked about how that would bring bad luck to her.

But the two guys who removed the concrete took only a bit over 3 hours to remove the concrete but did start to bust up the top knot it was perfect before that, I should have watched them closer.

But about a month after that Tim Swanky Glasner and his wife Stephany came by for a visit, Tim wrote the book on the Mai Kai and told me about some of the improvements being made to the Mai Kai sounds like it will be even better when they get done.

It was great to see the Glasner's again as Tim was the first TC persons I ever met way back when.

The Mai Kai is not a small tiki bar and we need it to be around for as long as we can keep it around.

I told him I would help in any way that I can as it is the best tiki restaurant/bar we have ever been to!

Eye hole and last time the concrete was on. IMG_0952 Top knot damage. IMG_0967 Kinda cool to see how it was made my wife thought it would make a cool topiary. IMG_0966 Tim and Stephany buy the Moai. IMG_0971 (2)

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The light? was number 824.

824 #2309 "RATTAN BASKET LIGHT". (1960s) A variation of the #2309 lamp. The general style of the basket lamps were consistent, although the basket weave itself did vary over time due to availability of the supply. Not electrified.24"x22".VG+.

Did have two of these that I did put lights in them and sold them to Huli Huli the ones I had came from the Kon Tiki in Clevland.

Why make and sell a light that has no light in it weird.

So here is a recipe that I made back when I worked at OSU making that food you hated at the dinning commons. but this one in pretty good and there is a too small batch recipe and a too big batch recipe. We don't like coconut so we leave it out when we make it. AND would be best to make this the day of event as Pineapple can kinda burn the rice if ya know what I mean.

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Did you buy this light? number 824.

824 #2309 "RATTAN BASKET LIGHT". (1960s) A variation of the #2309 lamp. The general style of the basket lamps were consistent, although the basket weave itself did vary over time due to availability of the supply. Not electrified.24"x22".VG+.

Did have two of these that I did put lights in them and sold them to Huli Huli the ones I had came from the Kon Tiki in Clevland.

Why make and sell a light that has no light in it weird.

I was able to put lights in them if you want to do that it can be done. And heck the guy I sold them to has them in a semi outdoor local that has them swinging in winds and even some weather blowing in from the sides and they are holding up for now.

Found this little turtle swimming around in our pond the other day, he is cool and we were feeding him even.

But then as we were feeding him one night he thought that eating one of our fish would be a good idea.

Well he soon found out that is the quickest way to get kicked out of that pond so he had to go, we took him to a nearby pond and let him go.

Too bad he was kinda cool, but eating our fish is a no no.

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Ok Hamo but best to come in the months of June through August as it might be sunny and even warm. Bring a suit as in pool not business.

So here are a few Kahiki lights I have to work with, don't know why they had or even made lights that have no lights in them.

You can see this in the "light" they just sold in the Oceanic arts auction # 824.

I had two of these I put lights in so they would be lights. I can tell ya after all that work even, I did not get $1,230.00 each for them. Not even close.

These are NOT from the Kahiki but from the Cleveland kon Tiki.

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Here are the Kahiki ones... IMG_0882 (1)

¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸ TIKISKIP™ "Go to the light"© ¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨*•.¸¸¨ --------------------------------------Lights, décor for home and commercial ----------------------------

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Here are some incandescent light bulbs I often use and just heard the other day these are also going to be fazed out by 2023. This will surly save the world but till that time get all you can I say.

Christmas without C9s I don't even want to live in that world.

"What about LEDs they are so much better", I just don't like em. Might be the stubborn old guy in me or the three to four times the cost of them, maybe it's the blueish cast the regular LED bulbs give out.

"Sure they cost more but they last longer" do they now, I was made to change the sockets and bulbs to LED bulbs on a few lights I sold to a place here and those lights looked fine after ( had to buy the even more costly antique looking LED bulbs) BUT my wife and I went into the place like three months after I sold them those lights and one light was out. And both those bulbs were brand new, heck they even just came out with the antique LEDs.

How could this be those LEDs last forever! AND the guy said he just changed the other LED bulb the day before!

So here is what they may have left out of the tests on these LED bulbs to get the results they wanted. Power outages, when I work at OSU changing light bulbs and then later on the High voltage crew I found that after a power outage the lights would be blown out all over campus.

Working on the High voltage crew later when installing surge arrestors on High voltage switch gears I was told that when you throw the switch on after you fix that power outage a surge of power goes down the power line.

These arrestors would take that surge to ground to save the switch gear. I never did find out if the lights on campus did not blow out as much after a power outage after we put in the surge arrestors, cuz hey I was no longer changing light bulbs and ballasts.

It did help the save the switch gear, and we got less overtime due to blowouts.

You get the same surge with lightning strikes only more so.

Only wish I could live long enough to hear these new whippersnappers gripe when they get rid of LEDs they now like so well for some other new light.

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So after you remove the broken ribs you then replace them with new Pieces of rattan seen here.

I saw that post by Jeff in collecting tiki and thought hey cool Jeff is posting and it's not just to promote a new book he is writing or a sale he has or a seminar Hes doing.

Then I see he rips that Detroit tiki book that has a higher five-star rating than his book BTW.

I do know and like Jeff but have seen over the years how he mostly does things for himself, but he always comes out smelling like a rose.

I met Doug Motz once and acted like I did not know who he was, He was so put out, visibly put out. It was so fun to not acknowledge him the way he did not acknowledge so many restaurants here in town.


TIKISKIP Lights___ I wanna bite the hand that feeds me. I wanna bite that hand so badly.

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Here they are. Met the lady at her warehouse, they got rid of everything because they were tearing down the place to build the new Baseball stadium.

Kahiki shades

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Hope you have a great day Kid!

Thank you for that firsthand account of what you found. I hold the most stock in stuff like that as most times firsthand accounts don't come with an agenda to get you to think one way or the other.

Be skeptical people and don't believe everything you are told people, that's all I ask.

Ok on to some tiki stuff.

Here is a new bar hanger barrel just did. used to find these all the time for like 5-10 bucks. Now they are $20.00 or more when I see them.

Got about ten or more of them they would be great shelf stands.

Just add some rope work and a hook plus a cork and yer done.


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Here are some molded resin items I made some time ago.

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so I have done this, "It's not so bad if somebody made one just for themselves"

But what is your take on making a copy of a table lamp from the Kahiki that was from the 60s and the artist if you could find out who made it is most likely dead.

(This is the second version and not the Marcy Sapp one we all knew who made that one)

Made about five of those and sold three? Did let people know it was a copy.

The thing is what do you do about a light you can't find any more and still want that light? you really end up covering the cost of making that light and end up with a few for yourself as any kind of pay off for making that light.

Do try to keep the lights I made mostly things I have come up with but do look at others from the past for ideas.

Have seen on here lights that are just like mine the more original ones I have done over time and one guy who I just asked to see a photo of it as it was in the background and he was all like "I have never even seen any of your lights" this was a long time TCer too that apparently never went to my light thread.

Man it would be nice to at least say I got this idea from.... Do try to give credit when I directly use an idea, and have asked for permission to use others ideas like from a painting but have never used that idea after they said yes I just never got around to it.

What's yer take on that.

Funny you say that I told Mike about your tread here and he said he would check it out, but I also told him that if I showed you how to tie floats like I had just showed him you would be beating me in less than a year.

Wish you did live nearby as we could make lights together.

I did long ago show one person how to tie floats and asked him not to tell anyone he was in a tiki group and that group with him teaching did a seminar at one of their events on how to tie floats right after I showed him.

Plus, a girl he knows well now sells more float lights than I do, I don't think she ties them the same way I do though to be honest.

So, all that killed me wanting to do as many how tos.

You know I was supposed to do an article in the new Tiki Mag on how to tie floats but it never happened kinda think the guy that worked for Amy was not so fond of me at that time is my best guess.

"TikiSkip you know that would never work at a restaurant." Ha! the way Hospitals are run would not work in any business except government that's only because people MUST come to you and must put up with the way they are so poorly managed.

My restaurant had a menu with prices, you knew what you were going to pay, at a hospital you have NO IDEA what kind of outrageous bill is coming.

At my restaurant everybody pays the same for what they got, at a hospital some pay NOTHING and those people many times are the fine citizens that lay around and drink or do drugs all day and have no time for working AND those are the people that know how to get into the ER and many times are just looking for pain killers or a warm place to stay for a night, I talk to other nurse's.

Time after time the day we went to the ER we would watch these people wheeled right into the back and get care right away.

PLUS, it looks like some people don't even have to be citizens at all to get FREE health care just wait till that 6 plus million people get into your ERs over the next two years that does not even include the new babies that will be born here over that time.

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