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Sun, Dec 18, 2011 2:23 AM
If I had to deconstruct foie gras rumaki, I'd guess a) they used the scraps, b) semi-froze the scraps and c) started with somewhat precooked bacon. That said, I think using curry powder would be far tougher! (almost invariably curry winds up tasting very, very dusty...unless you make your own, fresh) Lastly, I have seen a few times a sort of angels-on-horseback/rumaki hybrid, chicken livers not being the easiest thing to find around here. |
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Sat, Dec 24, 2011 3:05 PM
After working on Rumaki, the ultimate PolyPop Luau starter, I thought I’d switch gears and do some experiments on what should be the official brunch dish for the Big Tiki Morning After. Chow Dun was one of the first items I noticed on a ‘60‘s Don the Beachcomber’s menu. I don't find a mention of it in any of my old Chinese/Cantonese cookbooks or on any of the reputable-ish websites I glanced at. The Beachbum has a Chow Dun recipe in Taboo Table, but, unusually, no anecdotes about its development. In case you’ve not read it, you may define Chow Dun thusly: scrambled eggs with stuff in them. I’ve searched in current Chinese cookbooks and some contemporary to the Beachcomber and I’ve looked online, but I can’t find Chow Dun; what I do find is Chow Fun, a wide noodle dish that often contains scrambled eggs. Could it be that that’s where the dish arose? The theory is plausible because, while the symbols for items are generally consistent among Chinese dialects, the pronunciation of those words can vary wildly; Donn Beach may have just seen a dish, heard a word and run with it from there. If, as seems likely, I’m completely wrong, I’d love to know the real story. It beats me (like a scrambled egg) but maybe Chow Fun was in some way a starting point. Chow Dun, however, is my starting point. It’s a bit like a soft scramble version of Egg Fu Yung, but better because it doesn’t have the chewy egg-jerky hide that you have to flay from of nine out of ten E.F.Y. I do like the sauce element of Egg Fu Yung, though, so I’m going to honor its Cantonese/Indonesian roots with a Fish Sauce Gravy. The Don the Beachcomber Chow Dun recipe calls for green peas, but you will not catch me using those disgusting little green sacks of mush (Yes, I’ve had fresh and fresh frozen and they’re slightly less gross, I’ll grant you, but still very, very nasty.). The menu gives shrimp, pork and chicken options, the first two of which would be delicious, but I want something a bit more brunch-y. What I’m going to do is start with a recipe for Crabmeat Stirred Eggs (scrambled eggs with stuff in them) from Gloria Bley Miller’s 1966 1000 Recipe Chinese Cookbook, then add a few texture elements and the Fish Sauce Gravy. I use a fast shrimp stock in the gravy which I make by simmering shrimp shells from a pound or more of shrimp, and a little bit of onion, carrot and celery in enough water to cover the solids for about twenty minutes before straining. I make it any time I have shrimp around (it’ll freeze for storage). If you don’t choose to do that, use delicious tap water and double up on the fish sauce. Stirred Eggs w/ Crabmeat Heat oil on medium. Stir-fry green onions, water chestnuts and crabmeat for two minutes. Remove the crab mixture from the skillet. Add the sesame oil, eggs and salt. As the first layer sets, draw it toward the center of the pan. Fold the crab mixture into the eggs, reserving some lumps to display on top of the dish, stirring until you have a soft scramble. Serve immediately with steamed rice (if you wish) and Fish Sauce Gravy. Fish Sauce Gravy Sweat the garlic, shallots, chili and lemongrass in a sauce pan on medium heat. Stir in the curry powder and allow it to toast for about twenty seconds before adding the shrimp stock and fish sauce. If you were disobedient and didn’t make the shrimp stock, use water and double the fish sauce. Turn the heat up and simmer for twenty minutes. Meanwhile, make a slurry of the cornstarch and water. Remove the lemongrass stalks. Strain the stock and return the liquid to the pan and bring it to the boil. Add the cornstarch slurry, stirring constantly until the sauce has thickened. Remove it from the heat. Serve it warm. As I was heating the pot for the gravy, my eyes lit upon a chunk of Canadian bacon, so I minced it and added it to the sauce. I recommend it. I found an avocado and used it as a garnish. I recommend that, too. The timbale format for the dish worked best out of several plating styles because it facilitated a mixing of the elements, which, you may be sure, I recommend. |
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Sat, Dec 24, 2011 3:30 PM
This was one of those "Fake" Chinese dishes made up by a Chef at Vic's |
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Sat, Dec 24, 2011 3:42 PM
Thanks, CTiT. That sounds about right. Not only will I buy that, I like it. It's worth a mention, though, that the dish, under any name, is legitimately Cantonese, or was before I had to go and mess with it. [ Edited by: Professor G 2011-12-24 16:12 ] |
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Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:30 PM
Crème Rangoon Once again, my T.C. Amigos de Aloha have gone around putting ideas in my head, or, more frighteningly, shining lights in the dim recesses of what I like to call my mind and making me remember . . . things. One night at the restaurant, I was thinking about crab Rangoon while I was blowtorching a crème brûlée, and then, out of nowhere, I was thinking about crème Rangoon. I shook the dirty dessert notion off and hid it in the darkness of my soul. Then Tiki Tom D. brought up Rangoon in the Spam thread and it all came back. I had to put it together. Turns out, I failed to dig the vanilla custard in the first experiment and a wonton wrapper was too dang small. It was a vanilla fried pie. I don’t like to do innocuous. So this time, I used an egg roll wrapper which gave me the appropriate material for crunching: the crab Rangoons of my memory had the filling enclosed in the fried shell, so that’s what I went for. I replaced the crème with a pineapple chess filling. Pineapple Chess Filling Mix the first five, then add the pineapple. Pour the mixture in a small baking dish and cook at 350° for about 45 minutes, until it is set. Chill it until you need it. Cut six 7” egg roll wrappers corner to corner to get six triangles. Put about a tablespoon of filling near the right angle corner (that’s right . . . Jr. High math coming back to get you) and fold it over. You should have enough moisture from the filling that it’ll seal itself; If not, dip your fingers in a little water and moisten the edges you want to seal. You can make these any shape you want: beggar’s bags, flowers, or my favorite--abstract giant manta. In the meantime, heat vegetable oil for deep frying, at 325°. If you have a fry-master-2028Z, that’s great. I use a big heavy pot and a candy thermometer. You can drop these in two at a time. It takes no time for them to golden up. Pull them out; put them on paper towels to drain; repeat. Makes twelve or a few more if you feel like it. As they came out of the oil, I sprinkled a mixture of 4 parts granulated sugar to 1 part store-bought five spice powder (my home-made kicks a little too hard for this application). I did two sauces: cinnamon whipped cream (1 cup heavy cream whipped with a little under 1/4 cup of granulated sugar and a few drops of cinnamon extract) and a mixture of pineapple preserves and orange marmalade melted with a few nuggets of ginger which were then removed. There it is. I have messed with (respectfully) another Tiki classic. I hope you all enjoy and mess with these ideas in turn. Serve these little guys with ice cream? Absolutely. The sauce I did with my first experiment was a blackberry/ginger syrup that looked beautiful. Cut some of the pineapple out and replace it with toasted coconut. Dip half of it in tempered chocolate. Be your own mad scientist: mad scientists have all the fun. Granted, it's a pretty weird kind of fun. [ Edited by: Professor G 2012-01-19 19:15 ] [ Edited by: Professor G 2012-01-23 13:38 ] |
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Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:49 PM
Prof G, I always get excited when I see you have posted something in this thread. Looks really good and not all that difficult. Chess pie is one of those throwbacks from my childhood that I don't really ever see anymore, is it more common in the midwest? (assuming that's where you are) |
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Sat, Jan 21, 2012 5:51 AM
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Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:14 AM
Out of sheer curiosity...why margarine and not, say, butter? |
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Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:00 PM
Because I forgot to change it, Joke. I use the measurements for the filling given on a scrap of aged paper, but I replaced canned pineapple with fresh and margarine with unsalted butter (although a kiss of salt wouldn't hurt). Thanks for the good catch. [ Edited by: Professor G 2012-01-23 13:02 ] |
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Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:39 PM
I don't ever buy unsalted butter - it sits in the fridge until one morning when you stumble into the kitchen for breakfast and accidentally put it on your bagel. BLEECH!!! :lol: |
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Tue, Jan 24, 2012 6:24 AM
Ah. OK. I asked because in a Paul Prudhomme cookbook he SPECIFICALLY called for margarine on some recipes saying that butter wouldn't work (I used peanut oil instead, I do not buy margarine.) due to the "insufficient oiliness" of the butter. (To me, canned pineapple/juice tastes like fructose and metal.) |
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Tue, Jan 24, 2012 6:41 AM
OK, here's another midcentury gem, from Thomas Mario, who was the food & wine guy at Playboy back when that magazine was the ideal read for the young urban sophisticate. (So, mid-1960s...copyright on the book is 1971, recipes date from late 1950s to 1960s.) Baked Crab with Almonds, Samoan-style 13oz crabmeat (jumbo lump or backfin'd be my guess) Pick the crabmeat over to remove any stray bits of shell. Toss almonds with oil and toast them. (Original recipe said in an oven at 375F. I'd not waste the oil, and toss them in a dry skillet at medium heat.) In a skillet, melt the butter and sautee (no temperature given, I'd say medium) the onion and celery until onion is translucent. Stir in flour and cook to make a roux, add cream and cook "over a moderate flame for 5 minutes" until thickened. In a bowl, combine cream sauce, crab, soy, brandy, chile, and salt/pepper to taste. (Original also calls for MSG, but I left it out, not that I mind MSG.) Stir in breadcrumbs, spoon into 4 shallow baking vessels or "coquille" shells and scatter almonds on top. Bake at 375F for 20 minutes. (I'd let it go only to 10 minutes, seeing as how every single element of this dish is already cooked.) I'm thinking this could also be "Rangooned" or made into something in the springroll family. [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-01-24 06:48 ] |
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Sun, Mar 25, 2012 12:32 PM
Made these the other day (to go with spring rolls) and figured it'd be worth posting here. Sweet & Sour Dipping Sauce 1 cup ketchup (I like Heinz Organic best, Heinz regular is my 2nd favorite) Combine the ketchup, sugar, vinegar, and pineapple juice. Whisk to blend. In a small saucepan bring to a simmer, and gently cook down to the original consistency of the ketchup. Sweet Chile Dipping Sauce 1 cup ketchup (I like Heinz Organic best, Heinz regular is my 2nd favorite) Steep the crushed red pepper in half the vinegar. (You can do this a day or so ahead.) There you go! -J. [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-03-26 08:37 ] |
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Mon, Mar 26, 2012 6:36 AM
Thanks for the recipes jokeii. One question... You mention honey in the directions, but it's not in the ingredient list. Is the Pineapple juice supposed to be honey? Or was the honey just an accidental omission? Mahalo |
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Mon, Mar 26, 2012 6:46 AM
Those are nice looking, old-school sauces. All you need is a Phoenix-and-Dragon motif plate and a covered pedestal for your steamed rice and you're cranking out a classic. |
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Mon, Mar 26, 2012 8:37 AM
Oops. Fixed. The recipe I was riffing from originally called for honey, but I found them cloyingly sweet and without depth of flavor. Looking for something Tiki-er, I swapped for pineapple juice and that hit the spot. [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-03-26 08:39 ] |
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Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:24 AM
As an offering of reparation to the Tiki Gods for my screwup above (since fixed), I offer this, Trader Vic's Javanese Saté: At the Atlanta TV, this old-school lamb dish is a main course (5-6 chunks per skewer). If it works better for you as an appetizer for a cocktail party stand-up-with-drinks thing, do that. LAMB: FOR THE SAUCE:
3 parts Coriander NOTE there is no salt in this rub. If you use it for anything else, adjust the salt accordingly. Ditto any black/white pepper. |
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Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:47 PM
That Lamb looks incredible!! Thanks for the fix on the sauces. :) |
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Wed, Mar 28, 2012 7:45 AM
Hey, I'm a giver. |
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Wed, Mar 28, 2012 10:28 AM
I don't do lamb* but I bet those would be good with chicken or pork! *Here is my plan for the perfect ranch ~ the German Shepherds around the perimeter protect the other animals from poachers and predators. The sheep are used to feed the dogs and to serve as decoys in case some predator makes it through the dogs :lol: You'll notice the pig enclosure is a little bigger than the cattle, that's because pork is my favorite :D |
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Wed, Mar 28, 2012 2:28 PM
MDM, if you trim the lamb fanatically (which, admittedly, may be more work than you're willing to put in) it doesn't have the off-putting gamy "lamb thing." But this could work well with flap steak, or flank... |
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Mon, Apr 2, 2012 1:15 PM
And here...my take on coconut shrimp. I love dipping them in the Sweet Chile Dipping sauce but "normal people" tend to opt of the sweet 'n' sour (as posted previously). 1 c AP flour Set up a dredging station with three shallow bowls. One with the flour and and all the seasonings, one with the eggs (beaten with a teeny dribble of water) and one with the coconut shreds and panko mixed together. Put your oil in a heavy saucepan and heat to 325F-350F degrees. Coat shrimp w. seasoned flour, shake off excess. Put in the fridge and allow the breading to dry and firm a bit (15-30 min). In 2-3 batches fry the shrimp until golden brown, figure 2½ min. (You can stash them in an oven set as low as it will go.) If you're not sure about your thermometer -- or don't have one -- drop ONE shrimp and fry for 2½ minutes...if it's over/underdone adjust the temperature accordingly, never lower than 325F and never more than 350F. |
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Mon, Apr 2, 2012 1:17 PM
P.S. I probably should have cooked the above a TINY bit hotter, those are a bit pale. |
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Mon, Apr 2, 2012 1:49 PM
Joke, are you trying to kill me? First the lamb that I don't like, now the shrimp that I'm deathly allergic to :lol: But it looks real purty! |
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Mon, Apr 2, 2012 7:35 PM
You could probably do these in a chicken nugget variation! |
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Wed, Apr 11, 2012 1:22 PM
If anyone has any Tiki food recipe requests, let me know! I'll try to rummage and find something to post here. |
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Sat, Apr 14, 2012 2:23 PM
Tuna Poke ¼-½ c soy sauce (I like San-J Low Sodium, and not because of the low sodium) Mix the soy sauce, sambal, sesame oil, scallion whites, garlic, ginger and onions in a medium bowl. Add the tuna cubes and allow to marinate in the fridge for 30-45 minutes. Add the sesame seeds or the macadamia nuts. Plate up and garnish with the scallion greens. |
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Sat, Apr 14, 2012 3:15 PM
That sounds really tasty. I just bought a nice piece of tuna for sushi but I may have to give that a try too. My evil side (probably the majority :P) is pushing me to pair it with this drink... Macaque Shake with ice and pour unstrained into a wine goblet. Garnish with powdered cinnamon and toasted coconut flakes. |
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Sat, Apr 14, 2012 6:23 PM
It's pretty idiotproof. The only catch is the sushi-grade tuna. Even the sambal could be bought online or made at home in a pinch. If you're going to serve it buffet style, just keep it very cold. [ Edited by jokeiii on 2023-04-29 08:29:09 ] |
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Sun, Apr 15, 2012 7:20 AM
The tuna is no problem. We don't do sushi at the restaurant where I cook but one of our suppliers carries sushi grade seafood and I order stuff through them somewhat frequently for myself. The pairing of "tuna poke" and "macaque" wasn't serious, just a bit of juvenile humor. |
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Sun, Apr 15, 2012 12:46 PM
I disregarded the juvenile part to focus on whether I had the ingredients on hand! |
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Wed, May 9, 2012 6:56 AM
Another Tiki-able recipe, to help cushion your system from all the cocktails... Sesame Noodles Coarse (sea or Kosher) salt Put a large pot of water to boil over high heat. When it boils, salt it generously (I eyeball a healthy palmful), add the pasta you're using, and cook, stirring occasionally, until al dente. REMEMBER the cooking times will be materially shorted if you're using fresh egg anything. Drain and rinse under cold running water, until the noodles are room temperature. You do NOT want to sauce up hot needles, because they will absorb all the sauce, and you will end up with a very pasty/gummy/cemented-together result. The idea is for the sauce to cling to, not be absorbed by, the pasta. Put the pasta in a large bowl and toss with the peanut & sesame oils. (You CAN go straight sesame oil, but it is VERY strong. I like a 3:1 ratio of peanut : sesame...you do whatever.) In a blender (or small food processor) put the garlic and ginger with the blade spinning then add the peanut butter, soy sauce, brown sugar, vinegar, and red pepper. Process until smooth, then -- with the machine running --slowly add the hot water. (You may NOT have to add all the water, you just want the sauce to be the right thickness to cling to the pasta.) Toss the pasta with peanut sauce, cucumber, chicken, white and light green scallions, and garnish with the dark green parts of the scallions and the peanuts. -J. [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-05-09 07:11 ] |
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Sat, May 12, 2012 5:25 PM
Our own Professor G has a site http://www.docs-atomic-diner.com/ and tonight's dinner was his Shrimp and Mushrooms in Spicy Coconut Sauce. My supermarket didn't have Crimini mushrooms so I substituted Shitake. This is a great dish and somewhat similar to the Thai Chicken/Shrimp dish my wife enjoys at Mai Kai. My wife had hers over white rice and I had pasta. Great dish! |
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Sun, May 13, 2012 6:20 AM
As an FYI, Crimini mushrooms are often called Baby Portabella. |
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Mon, May 14, 2012 4:09 AM
Ah. Then they did have them! :D |
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Mon, May 14, 2012 3:13 PM
Those shiitakes looked great, though. They're not quite as absorbent as the criminis. Portobellos are mature criminis, and taste nice in the spicy coconut sauce, but you have to scrape out the gills or they turn the sauce a sort of grayish-brownish-pinkish that is less than appealing. |
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Tue, May 22, 2012 2:31 AM
Here is another Tiki food classic, Trader Vic's Bongo-Bongo soup: 10oz frozen spinach, partially thawed (I usually steam my own spinach and then freeze it so it stays BRIGHT green, but that's just my being obsessive) Put oysters and their juice, clam juice, garlic, and pepper to taste into a medium saucepan over medium-high heat. Bring to a simmer, add spinach, breaking up spinach with the back of a spoon, and simmer until JUST thawed, about 2 minutes. Transfer to a blender and purée until very smooth. Set this aside. Preheat broiler. Whip cream to the "soft peaks" stage. Bring half & half to a simmer in a medium saucepan over medium heat. Whisk in butter -- you don't want the butter to separate -- and return to a simmer. Add A-1, Tabasco, L&P, and salt to taste. Dissolve cornstarch in 1 T water, then whisk into soup. Add then spinach–oyster purée and warm over lowest heat. You really want to NOT overcook the spinach, to keep it as green as popssible. If the soup is olive colored, you blew it. Divide soup between 4 shallow heatproof soup bowls and put a big glob of whipped cream on top of each. Place bowls of soup under broiler -- a kitchen torch will work also -- to brown cream, then serve soup immediately |
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Tue, May 29, 2012 9:36 PM
Here's my version of Asian Chicken Salad. Ingredients Instructions
OPTIONS: You can use peanuts, or fried wonton strips as the garnish. You can replace Napa cabbage with any sturdy lettuce or cabbage (a little red cabbage looks nice in any case) or you can use shredded carrot instead of bell pepper. |
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Sat, Jun 2, 2012 4:50 PM
Had this yesterday for dinner. HUGE hit. Kung Pao Shrimp 1 pound shrimp (I like "31-40" size, peeled and deveined)
Next time I make this, I'll remember to peel the tails off, because eating tail-on shrimp with chopsticks is kind of a pain! [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-06-02 16:56 ] |
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Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:35 PM
It's time to change this thread to "Chinese Food" recipes |
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Sat, Jun 2, 2012 7:58 PM
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Sat, Jun 2, 2012 9:53 PM
If one remembers . . . and I am old enough to remember . . . most of the "Tiki Establishments" |
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Sat, Jun 2, 2012 10:19 PM
Well, no. MOST of the Tiki restaurant recipes were outright Chinese-American (usually Cantonese-American) standards. Don the Beachcomber's food certainly was. I'd say that with the exception of Trader Vic's almost all Tiki places featured mostly semi-Chinese food. If you'll note, just on the immediately preceding (the 6th) page of the thread only one out (Kung Pao Shrimp) of four (Kung Pao Shrimp, Asian Chicken Salad, Bongo Bongo Soup, Sesame Noodles) is an authentic Chinese dish, the other three respectively being original to Wolfgang Puck, Trader Vic and Jean-Georges Vongerichten. But let me be generous to your assessment and grant you the Cold Sesame Noodles as being Chinese. In the previous (5th) page, it was one out of five, on the page before that, zero out of four. Before that, 0-for-2, and previous to that, 0-for-3, and starting us off on Page One...0 out of 5 recipes were Chinese. For a total of three out of 23 recipes being Chinese. But I'm not in an argumentative frame of mind, and anyone is welcome to add (which they have) whatever style of cuisine recipes they want. I certainly intend to add non-Chinese recipes (Thai Chile Beef, Lomi-Lomi Salmon, Trader Vic's Cheese Bings and Beef Negamaki all spring to mind) and hope others will do likewise. [ Edited by: jokeiii 2012-06-02 22:20 ] |
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Sun, Jun 3, 2012 12:48 AM
Oh that's right you missed the great "Tiki Food War" |
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I was past the draft age! :wink: |
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Mon, Jun 4, 2012 1:22 PM
And now...something not even remotely Chinese! Lomi Salmon 8 oz very clean salmon cut into ¼" dice In a glass bowl, put the salmon and season to taste with the sea salt (don't skimp on the salt) and pepper. Massage the salt into the salmon (this is key) and then add the tomatoes, scallions, lime juice, hot pepper sauce, and oil. The salmon should be well seasoned, and be prepared no longer than 15 minutes before serving. Depending on how fussy/casual things are, your dicing/slicing can be more or less precise. If you have one with NON serrated blades (i.e., my smaller Braun, not my larger Cuisinart) you could even get away with CAREFULLY using a food processor. |
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Sat, Jun 23, 2012 2:53 PM
I seek the collected wisdom of the assembled Tiki Foodie community. One of the things I want to offer guests who drop by -- as opposed guests who are in for A Scheduled Event -- is some sort of bar snack that is both Tiki and a proper bar snack. I don't want plain ol' peanuts or pretzels. I (duh!) don't mind doing a bit of work to have some of this on hand, problem is that I'm not sure what "this" means. I'm thinking some mix of nuts...but how to season them? Or maybe something else? For THIS purpose, I really don't want anything that will have me sprinting from kitchen to bar. Just something that can be stored and served. Thoughts? |
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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:35 PM
Maybe a sort of "Chex Mix", made with wasabi peas, macadamia nuts, those soy sauce coated rice crackers, smoked and salted edamame soy beans, etc. And a big bag of fortune cookies. |