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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 12:00 AM
Nice work! Glad to hear your an even more eficient carver now! After 5 years you can already see the lines on the piece I suppose. |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 7:42 AM
Yo Tama (the tryer of new things), What a great feeling you must have had doing that in a totally different way. You are getting into something that is fairly important to me and the way I carve. My problem is that I cannot Draw well at all. If someone wants a drawing of a proposal, I would have to pass on the job. So, when I start out with the piece, wood, stone or whatever, I usually start with a centerline and lines for where I want features. I will roughly sketch in those features here and there, but as I start the removal process, I usually let the piece show me where to go and one feature leads into another and I just try to keep it balanced. IF I could draw better, I may do it differently but I don't think so. Years ago, I had a friend who was an acomplished carver. His Horses heads were very realistic looking but NONE of his art had a soul, or a personality. He Always carved from patterns and would draw his lines all over his work. When the carving process took away a line, he drew it right back. |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 8:00 AM
Tama, Nice! I agree. I love carving and hate putting lines on things to confine my flow. On big stuff, I prefer to make minor marks, or no marks, and have at it. I do my best work that way. The small stuff you do is less forgiving and still needs to be carefully planned out, but I can see where a little free-carving would feel great. Beautiful stuff - let us see more of him tonight! -Gman |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 11:57 AM
I think the gist (amongst the haze of cheap red cask wine) of it was that I agreed that the (Benz) method worked as I use it too (rather than being in the fussy camp), and it comes from an understanding of your subject. I have also chatted about this with the man himself. I firmly believe my work has got better the less I draw. The time I used to spend drawing, I now spend studying photos and drawings of old (or new) pieces and absorbing the "elements" and the feel of the design, and then thinking about how I can make it my own. A structured way of "Channelling" if you like. I'm not as bold as you've been here though - I probably wouldn't ever carve the face on one my fellas without a single line to guide me! |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:12 PM
Tama, Here's a face coming to life with no lines - just free carving. I love to just remove wood and uncover the facial features. They just appear and slowly get refined as I go. This is the type of carving that is truly relaxing for me. Lines and boundaries make me fee confined and stressed. Similarly to what Benz stated, I think this is where the true art/artist lies. Be bold! Blocked out... The face uncovered... -Gman "The saw is family" [ Edited by: GMAN 2006-11-16 19:01 ] |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:42 PM
See what happens when you let the Ancients palay around? They have Bigger, Badder things for you . |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:45 PM
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Paipo
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 7:33 PM
Just had to add, the extra set of "neck 'n' shoulder" holes really works well, I think you're onto something there! |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 7:38 PM
This piece is, aahh, hmmm, uhh, yeah. I'm speechless. Whatever you're doing (or not doing), keep doing it (or not doing it)!! |
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006 11:55 PM
Hey G-man, very fine art. Looks great. Mahalo Ben |
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Tamapoutini
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 3:50 AM
Wow! Thanks for the encouragement everyone. The eureka vibe must have pulled you all in? Happy to report the mojo is still flowing & caused more tikis to be born today... Thanks Sneaky - yeah, the 'traditional' hei-tiki is well & truly burnt into my brain. I doodle them unconciously whenever I pick up a pen. Haunted almost... Finished the tiki/toki today, see below. Benz: hope you grabbed those reject horse heads, fixed 'em up & sold them off?? Gman: so you guys have doing this all along and nobody told me, sheesh! Paipo: Didnt mean to lump you into the fussy camp with me. I know your skills..!! Thanks Heath! (& Bennella for following Gman here... :lol:) Carried on with this just for you Gman. Not that I needed much convincing. Finished carving & ready for sanding. Shown dry... And WD-40'ed... I have a name for this fella but will save it for when hes finished. Finished the latest Hei-tiki/toki today. Not bad but the stone let me down in a few places. Just teeny 'chatters' in the stone, but they ruin the purity in my eyes. I know, you guys all think that cracks/flaws are marvelous :lol: and I agree they sometimes add their thing. But when a piece of stone is SO close to being flawless those marvelous things are a real pain in the !!!! 'Jack-Hammer Buzzy' And this little guy started. Dont quite know what to think of him myself? The plan is to have him swinging off the cord... yeah, I dunno. maybe just silly? Done away with the doo-dah already... Another busy tiki day! Kei te Ngenge. TamaTheTuckered/Tired... yawn! :wink: |
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 4:31 AM
What a day Tama! Some serious jade work happening - with big changes! The big guy that you free carved some on is marvelous...I mean super trick! I can't get over the beauty of the stone. The Buzzy Hammer looks great to me - what imperfections? The new guy looks like a serious task. You want him hanging from two small holes in those hands? Yikes! I wanna see this guy in a few days.... What ever happened to the non-trad guy you started a while back with the big tongue (page 9). He was kinda wild and crazy looking, with big eyes? I would love to see a pic of him now - I fully realize he is one of the 80 "partially finished" cats now. Benella - it is cedar. -Gman "The saw is family" [ Edited by: GMAN 2006-11-17 04:38 ] |
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 4:38 AM
Sorry Tamapoutini , Your pieces are masterpieces. Ben |
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 5:12 AM
Tama, I Really Love the little Swinger hei-tiki, Excellent Idea and you again make it look Eazy. |
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Tamapoutini
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 1:44 PM
Hi guys n gals. Benz: At least you sound like a broken record that I like :lol: Thanks mate. Benella: No worries, I was only teasing (& it was more directed at the Gman, heehee) Gman: Thanks for the comps. Im pretty pleased with the new-approach tiki myself -the stone is a much sought after 'Marsden' district stone, material from this area famed for its intense greens, exceptional hardness & sometimes a beautiful yellow/gold crust/rind (the latter being affectionately known as Marsden Flower -rare & 'spensive!! As for the Crazed-tiki from page 9: (just been back & had a look -spent 15mins poring over Benz's Moais again, damn you're good Ben!), he's still waiting in the wings for a break in the traffic... He has inspired a Big Brother piece which will be gracing the front of the Fez belonging to our man Kings (let me know if I have the go-ahead on revised design Bullet..? the toes will be touching slightly & the 'air-space' between legs will be a little smoother/cleaner...) And as for the wee swinger... Oh Ye of little faith... :lol: pukana TamaTheTinyHoleDriller |
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 3:46 PM
all systems are go! he looks great. the swinger is a great design. do you recommend wd-40 or something else to put a shine on my jade pieces? |
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006 3:52 PM
Thanks Tama the All things good. That guy with the big tongue is Really cool. His tongue is longer, top center tooth gone, legs and feet refined. Doo-dah is missing, He has a forehead, plus he is on Green stuff instead of white stuff and he Looks Unbelievablle, kind of like he is gonna jump off the screen. |
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Sat, Nov 18, 2006 3:53 PM
Here's the broken record I hear: Gimme Dat, Gimme Dat, Gimme Gimme Gimme dat, gimme dat ding, gimme dat. Gimme gimme dat. Gimme Dat ding. Gimme Gimme dat. gimme gimme gimmie dat ding. Tama - you better send some stuff to Ben, or he's gonna pop! Great stuff as usual. I will apologize ahead of time. Sorry! |
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Sun, Nov 19, 2006 12:41 AM
Hi guys. Busy, busy. More to share... Cheers Benz & Tikigap! Kings: Although WD-40 is a quick and easy method during making I wouldnt really use it once a piece is finished. The main problem is the smell. I personally quite like it but dont think my paying punters would. Neopol furniture polish is nice, seriously! On with the show... Started a couple of new pieces today. Well, one was already profiled and shown on an earlier page. A bit of an only-just-tiki day today... Eureka lessons having been learned, I quickly resort back to my tight little ways. Yes, both of these were worked out very carefully on the white stuff first & transferred. So sue me... :lol: A unique Manaia/birdman form. These are often seen flanking human figures in Maori art & are seen as protective/guardians. Often depicted as simply a beak. And a new one. A maverick among NZ jade carvers; I very rarely produce anything with a koru (spiral) on it :lol: seeing as how they have been done to death & in 1001 different flavours... Broke tradition for no reason at all other than I had drawn this the other night & thought it ought to happen. Not particularly tiki but a perfectly acceptable example of 'modern Maori art'... A classic lovey-dovey image of Mum, Dad and Child all hugging & loving. Someone will love it! Sarcasm aside, I am quite pleased with the design & have been 'discovering' more & more about it as I worked on it. Its got the usual NZ treefern reference, an unfurling frond & the koru is nowdays seen as a symbol of growth & change. A perfect image for a growing family. The image is pretty obvious, a mother holding child & daddy protecting both, but I saw into it that all are also in 'hongi' pose (trad greeeting where noses & foreheads are pressed. A Happy-Hongi-Family-Fuzzy-Whanau-Kuddly-Koru-Kodak moment. Say cheese-ey * And thats the external shaping virtually sorted, now comes the fiddly stuff; getting into those spirals... another time, heehee Did a bit more on the Swingers fingers Gman & they are looking cool. Thought Id start with the hands just to be sure that the piece was going to happen, wasnt too sure myself! Possibly have a buyer lined up already...? Stay tuned. Tama out. Terribly. :) |
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Sun, Nov 19, 2006 7:38 AM
Tama Out Terribly? ? |
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Tamapoutini
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Mon, Nov 20, 2006 11:45 PM
Cheers Benz. That Manaia has been kicking around for a while now & Ive just been waiting for the right moment to start carving him proper. Happy so far... Havent done many of them at all (though just thought of a pretty special one Ive got tucked away. Been meaning to show you for a while...) Dont know that it been all that eureka today, but plenty busy... Pulled a late night & finished the carving of "The New Arrival"/Tri-Koru 1002 Sanded it up this morning & added cords *You might have noticed I never showed the other side of this one; I was keeping a wee surprise till now. Not a big one, just a wee one. Check out the 'golden child'... spooky Money $hot... And spent the rest of the day drawing up this handsome crew. They look a bit like the Jackass boys! :lol: 'WeeMan' 'Johnny K'xville' Um, 'Skeletor' And, er, 'No Name'... One step forward, four steps back... TamaTheTiki-Daddy :) |
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Tue, Nov 21, 2006 12:51 AM
Hi Tama, Bay Park Buzzy and I were at Hiltiki's house this weekend, and when she was fixing lunch I saw her take this out..... Is it possible you're really from Italy and the producer of olive oil? :) Zaya |
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Tue, Nov 21, 2006 12:58 AM
Very beautiful pendants. |
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Tue, Nov 21, 2006 9:36 AM
Tama the Virgin Olive Oil, I Knew there was something else going on there, I just Knew it! |
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Tue, Nov 21, 2006 9:52 AM
Damn Tama! You eating spinach or what? Jeeze! These are all destined to be great, but the one for your child is going to be magical. Enjoy the journey with that one as it will be one of the most important pieces you will ever make. Please keep posting pics, as I come to your thread several times a day to view your work. :D -Gman |
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Tue, Nov 21, 2006 1:14 PM
Hi guys n gals. Thanks for watchin'! Zaya: You found out my little secret; I hand-whittle olives in my spare time. It just helps to keep my eye in for carving rounded shapes. As the head of the Tama Trading Co, I employ a small team of 'extra virgins' to help me... :lol: Actually, apart from TamaPoutini being my schmoosey way of ingratiating myself with the local taniwha/monster (who protects the pounamu), it is a play on my middle name, Tamatea. Benella: Again, a bit of a radical in NZ, Im not really all that interested in rugby (blasphemy) so didnt catch the game. Dare I ask who won? Yes, Im sure little Kenna is going to be proud to have her very own Hei-tiki: might get a few orders from school -save up your lunch money kids, haha Benz: Yep, thats Johnny Knoxville twisting through the air after a trip to an exploding toilet or something just as stupid. Have you seen those guys? I was a little late in catching up. Madness... Gman: Im torn with Kennas tiki: Do I make it really special or listen to the inner voices saying, 'she could lose it/break it/sell it/swap it on the first day? heehee. No, it will be a nice one. I trust that she knows the preciousssnesss of them by now. *Big bowl of spinach for breakfast; I y'am what I y'am, arf arf! Good to hear you check in so often Gman. You obviously dont have a boss looking over your shoulder. Mine has just come in with a look upon her face that says 'what the hell is this? doesnt look like work to me' Better get back to it. Not sure if there will be anything to show today. A fair bit of toggling/plaiting/packaging/posting to do. And after that, the Extra Virgins and I have a huge order of olives to carve. Its hell I tell ya! TamaTheTsar :) |
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Wed, Nov 22, 2006 4:01 AM
hey Tama, I am not much interested in sports too but i told you about 'cause the french team thinks to be the best in the world : all members pose nude each year for a calendar... but they never won! that makes me laugh a lot :) Very nice pendants. Ben |
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Wed, Nov 22, 2006 4:21 AM
Where is the progress on the Jackass boys? I missed my jade and rock carving pics fix yesterday? JP |
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Sat, Nov 25, 2006 10:09 PM
Hi guys. Yes Ben, it has been a bit slow in your absence. Ive been laid up with a tummy-bug for the past three days. Wont go into the full horror... Benella: Im glad our team keep their clothes on! As predicted an easy All Black thrashing against the Welsh, though a bit of controversy regarding the performance of the haka; they did it in the dressing room before the game much to the disappointment of the crowd... JohnnyP: Sorry to keep you from your fix. Tentitively back to work yesterday & I managed to get 'Wee Man' half done. Back in full swing today & finished him off & added paua eyes - well, he was only a wee man... Also added some paua eyes to the 'Hei-tiki with Matau' as per new owners wishes (you'll probably see it on eBay before too long...) Also did a bit more to the 'swinger' tiki today - Ill flick some pics of all these this time tommorrow... See y'all soon! Tama :) |
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Sat, Nov 25, 2006 10:32 PM
Nope. Couldnt wait... 'Wee Man' ready for sanding... (WD-40'ed) Next day: sanded up. But thought better of it. scowl And 'Hei-tiki with Hei-matau' -with eyes. *I'll save the 'swinger' till tommorrow - not finished but getting there... Shalom. T3 :) |
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Sun, Nov 26, 2006 10:31 AM
Top-shelf work Tama! The stoner look is neat, but the scowl is mo betta. Post some pics of the swinger. I wanna see where you have taken him. How the heck small of a burr did you use to work on that hook? -Gman |
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Sun, Nov 26, 2006 12:11 PM
A: teeny-tiny... (the one on the right) For comparison, the one on the left was used to drill the swingers' hand-holes... Sorry to hear you're unwell Gman. Ive just got over the lurg myself... Tama :) |
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Sun, Nov 26, 2006 12:47 PM
Tama, amazing stuff, as always! Amy |
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Sun, Nov 26, 2006 12:55 PM
Tama, Sorry you are feeling Ill! Your wee one has the eyes to prove it. It's Amazing how placement of the Paua markings can change the personality so drastically, and what is even More amazing is that you have to be careful Not to portray the "Wrong" one. I think I ike the 'Scowl" the best. |
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Mon, Nov 27, 2006 12:22 AM
Looks kool Tama. I kinda like the stoner look, but the scowl is mucho better. I love how the 4 are all similar, yet reflect the shape of the stone :) |
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Mon, Nov 27, 2006 11:38 PM
Kia ora Guys n Gals. Sorry for the slow postings lately - pretty much over the lurg but overwhelmed with work at the moment. Juggling tikis & customers like they're tennis balls and will be for the next few months Im guessing. Thanks QueenK! How are your stone creations coming along? Be sure to add the finished products in the Stone Carving thread and/or whistle out for any help... Hewey: A quick insight into how I come up with many designs... My usual approach is to slab a small block of stone down into jewellery-thickness pieces; have a good look at them under light to show any cracks/inclusions etc & mark these with a pen. I then get them back onto the trimsaw & trim them down to 'good' stone, ie: hack away all of these unwanted aspects, until 'voila' Im left with a small strangely-shaped chunk of material to make a tiki from... To maximise the use of my darling pounamu I pretty much design each tiki to suit the shape of stone available, always trying to squeeze the biggest possible image onto the slab. *I find its kind of nice to let an external opportunity/constraint (the limitations of size/shape) be of influence - it keeps me thinking & saves me from doing ALL the thinking :lol: Benz/JohnnyP: Its funny how the slightest variations make such a difference, eh? Ben you should know -Im guessing that you didnt learn to carve those beautiful peepers overnight!? Im only really picking patterns & moving them about until they look right, but I do realise the importance/impact they can have & take my time when making them. Here'ya Johnny, more on the swinger... Took the liberty of putting the doo-dah back. Hope this suits the interested caller? Ill PM shortly. And the Eureka-Tiki all finished. Quite happy with this one, some good lessons learned. Ive all but run out of pauashell but a generous friend/neighbour kindly donated some paua jewellery that I promptly smashed to pieces. (it was cheap nasty jewellery but made from nice shell, heehee) Even when not posting daily, Im here, watching... Let those tikis fly! Tama :) |
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 6:49 AM
I Love it when you finish one and post the pix. The "Eurika" guy came out Fantastic, especially for being an Un-Planned out piece. I'm sure it will not alter the way you go about planning your carvings, but is but one of the daily lessons added to the'Experience" closet wherea ll your creativity comes from. |
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 6:18 PM
Just a tiny posting from me today... Tama :wink: |
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 6:44 PM
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 7:41 PM
Double Dang. He is a Mite bit Small, or should we say Teeny Weenie Hei-Tiki. He must be at least 35 cm tall, by 17cm wide. You should be able to finish him up within about 4 daze rather than your usual two,Hey! Might be a Cute little bugger, just my size. |
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 10:34 PM
A huge amount of tiny progress... TamaTheTiddler :) |
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Tue, Nov 28, 2006 11:53 PM
Seems you never stop! Your pieces always have that small element of humor but mixed with a strict respect for the past, style-wise. Love the stoner one! Too bad you can't have mix-n-match eyes for that one! You're makin' me wanna carve! "Rock" on! |
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Wed, Nov 29, 2006 2:26 AM
Wonderful, I think your last one is the best. It´looks realy beautiful. |
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Wed, Nov 29, 2006 4:32 PM
Where izzit? I know you finished the super wee guy today? |
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Wed, Nov 29, 2006 5:55 PM
:lol: Give me another 5 minutes... No, actually Ive been in town & dropped the big block of stone off for cutting. No carving today as yet... I was hoping to take piccies of the block being cut for the Stone Carving thread but am using a new guy as my regular is mucking me about a bit. New Guy has other work on & is going to chop it tonight, to be picked up tommorrow, so no pics this time. Might make some tiny progress later... Tama :) |
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Wed, Nov 29, 2006 8:35 PM
Tama & Johnny P: Nice to see others who work micro! Hope your eyes are not getting bad like mine are. Looking at your work makes me want to start carving greenstone too. I'm adding it to my want list. |
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Thu, Nov 30, 2006 12:21 AM
'ta-ding' (tiny fanfare) :lol: LLT: Never stop, ever! Tiki-making-I-must! Haikai: Thanks for the props! Means a lot coming from such a talented fellow as yourself! Crazy in a good way, right? :) Gman: How did you know Id finished it..? :wink: Hold tight... TikiDav: Would you believe I didnt even reach for my specs with this little guy?!! I do have a pair for weeny-work & also a jewellers magnifying-thingy, but rarely use either. Thank the Lawd for small mercies; I still got my eyes. Sorry to hear yours are failing you; Ive got plenty of aches & pains to make up for it! 'Teeny-Tiny-Tiki' by TTT. 2006 *So close Benz: 32 x 14 x 4mm; which for the majority of you means: 1 1/4 x 1/2 x 1/8 inches. Funnily enough, I really made this to fit the eyes which I found in a box the other day :lol: I found a bag with many tiny matched pairs of paua discs, made many years ago to be set in ear-studs. (*Didnt tell you Im a quasi-qualified silver/goldsmith did I? Yes, many years ago I called myself a man of metals & was under the wing of a Great Man of Alchemy. It was actually the frustration/limitation of ring stones that led me to stone carving; I was forever disappointed at the stones available for my jewellery & started in order to be able to make my own. Never went back to metals; now there's fiddly!!) Realising they would never be used for ear-studs I thought Id better make a tiki for them. Im thinking of emailing the Guinness Book of Records & seeing how it ranks for "Smallest, Darkest, NZ Pounamu Hei-Tiki: reasonably well detailed - Made with Naked Eye" catagory. I reckon its in with a good chance! A tiny story, but all true... TamaTheTruthful :) |
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